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GIDS being sued by their safeguarding lead.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 07/07/2020 14:54

(Text from their crowdfunder)

My Details

My name is Sonia Appleby. I am a qualified social worker (1981); adult psychoanalytic psychotherapist (I992); MSc. in health psychology, (research) and MBA. I have a long career safeguarding and protecting children in social care, health and as a children’s guardian in public and private proceedings.

I am currently the Named Professional for Safeguarding Children and the Safeguarding Children Lead at the Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust. I am therefore still employed by the Trust against which I am bringing my claim.

What is Safeguarding?

In all NHS trusts and organisations there are professionals such as myself, who work with other internal departments and external agencies to ensure there are 'root and branch' systems to keep patients and service users safe. This means responding to patient/service users' personal experiences, also including their environmental, familial, community/peer circumstances and sometimes any of the aforementioned domains could require the intervention of other professionals in different agencies. Safeguarding children and young people also concerns ensuring there is a sufficiently, healthy culture that does not unwittingly contribute to potential harm regarding the people who use and deliver NHS services.

Safeguarding within the Trust

My primary task is to ensure that clinicians protect their patients/service users from avoidable harm and are also able to recognize and appropriately respond to situations where under 18s are in need of safeguarding. My secondary task is challenge practices which are either harmful or could lead to harm. The Trust is commissioned by NHS England to deliver a National Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS), which provides services for children and adolescents diagnosed with gender dysphoria. The treatments available also include "puberty blockers".

I have sought to ensure the principle of ''safeguarding children and young people'' is upheld whilst service users are being assessed and treated within the GIDS service.

My Claim

I lodged a whistle-blowing claim in November 2019 at the Central London Employment Tribunal. Since then I have made 2 applications to amend my claim as new information came to light.

In my claim, I allege that because I made "protected disclosures" to my line manager regarding concerns raised by GIDS staff ( that the health or safety of patients was being, had been or was likely to be endangered), I was subjected to detriments.

I allege these detriments are:

i) the Tavistock misused it's own procedures to besmirch me and therefore jeopardize the role of safeguarding within the Trust;

ii) there was an unwritten but mandated directive from the Tavistock management that safeguarding concerns should not be brought to my attention despite being the Trust Safeguarding Children Lead;

iii) and, clinicians were discouraged from reporting safeguarding concerns to me.

I also allege various other detriments.

Further to disclosures made to Newsnight by former staff, BBC Newsnight produced a programme focusing on the allegation that the Trust did not want to report any concerns to me. www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51806962

and you can watch it here

OP posts:
Kit19 · 08/07/2020 15:38

Christina

I think one of the issues regards capture of the Tavistock is that its Chair is Paul Burstow who is a former Lib Dem MP and I assume still has close party links

the Lib Dems nailed their colours to the mast very clearly with the TRA and Ive no doubt he's heavily influenced by this

SarahTancredi · 08/07/2020 15:29

I know that Stonewall has huge institutional capture, but how can one organisation have influenced NHS policy and practice to such an extent

Lisa muggeridge talks about this in one of her YouTube videos.

About how we know that predators will get themselves into jobs where they can access or assist in accessing their victims.

About how all it takes is a few well placed people.

And how these people make themselves beyond reproach. They will be the sweetiest , most honest, kindest people you will ever meet. Everyone will love them. They will perhaps do lots of charity work. Volunteer for local schemes that help children etc .

They will be the last person you would ever suspect of being a predator. How can you accuse someone who donates their spare time and money to charity. Who has immersed themselves in aiming to fight for people who can't fight for themselves.

Lgbt stuff provides that. And when you have a long standing trustworthy hardworking person who every one loves then who would question the suggestions/policies they come up with.

Especially when the majority of people aren't predators so would not be looking at the policies in the sense of what it would allow them to do.

christinarossetti19 · 08/07/2020 13:43

I have quite a few friends and acquaintances that have trained in psychotherapy at the Tavistock.

It has always been regarded as a centre of innovation and professional excellence.

How on earth has something as fundamental as safeguarding children been allowed to be so systematically undermined? In addition to the many clinicians who have resigned, many of whom are speaking publicly about their concerns about children not being properly assessed etc.

How on earth has this happened at the Tavistock? It is truly shocking.

I know that Stonewall has huge institutional capture, but how can one organisation have influenced NHS policy and practice to such an extent?

What do people think?

TIA. I'm really shocked about this.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 08/07/2020 13:13

Thinking, I made another pledge to Raquel's fund in honour of your deletion. Smile

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 08/07/2020 13:11

Anyone who cares about children in the care of GIDS should be supportive of them getting the best standard of care possible.

StandWithYou · 08/07/2020 13:00

It is dreadful that these actions are having to be crowdfunded but I do find it heartening to watch the sums pledged go up and up. I don’t feel alone.

My other pleasure is watching JKR’s Twitter - not only does she own them but so many people are coming out and supporting her. I’m feeling more hopeful now.

OldCrone · 08/07/2020 12:41

Yet another depressing example of safeguarding seemingly disintegrating as soon as trans children are part of the picture.

What do GIDS think a 'trans child' is? Do they believe that it's possible to be literally 'born in the wrong body'?

NotBadConsidering · 08/07/2020 12:39

@Pertella

Pledged, let's get this out into the open.

Surely the TRAs can't object to that as there is apparently nothing untoward going on, right?

This is what the concerns are:

www.bbc.com/news/health-51806962

The Tavistock - like other NHS organisations - has a named person clinicians can turn to discuss specific safety concerns.

But staff allege they were discouraged by GIDS Director Polly Carmichael from going to see the Trust's safeguarding lead, and from referring cases to social services.

According to the transcripts, these included cases where staff feared a child had suffered sexual abuse or trauma.
"In all of my previous work, if you had a concern, you refer them on," it's claimed. "And that did not happen."

Anyone who objects to the fact that children suffering from sexual abuse or trauma weren’t referred to the appropriate service needs to be very heavily scrutinised. Hmm

Sexnotgender · 08/07/2020 12:31

Surely the TRAs can't object to that as there is apparently nothing untoward going on, right?

Now you say that... but experience says otherwise 😂

Pertella · 08/07/2020 12:20

Pledged, let's get this out into the open.

Surely the TRAs can't object to that as there is apparently nothing untoward going on, right?

Datun · 08/07/2020 11:20

When you think about it, stripping out or undermining safeguarding structures is really the only explanation for why an NHS service could be operating in the way GIDS has been reported to. Yet another depressing example of safeguarding seemingly disintegrating as soon as trans children are part of the picture.

Indeed.

highame · 08/07/2020 11:13

£9350 since about 3 yesterday afternoon. She'll be pleased, like the rest of us.

HandsOffMyRights · 08/07/2020 09:03

Pleased to see this is nearly £9k already.

How many whistlewblowers from there does it take?

There were at least 5 last year when The Times did a front page lead and several features. Now the safeguarding lead. Surely its on the way to double digits. Wonder what proportion of staff that is?

Packingsoapandwater · 08/07/2020 08:44

This is the start. The scandal is going to be monumental, and the repercussions will reverberate across society.

I'm not sure whether the NHS will be able to weather it, to be honest. It will be worse than Alder Hey. Sad

Siablue · 08/07/2020 08:27

As well as being discrimination against Sonia it is also discrimination against the vulnerable children who would have been referred to safeguarding had they not been trans.

HerewardTheWoke · 08/07/2020 08:22

I suspect this will be the thing that makes the whole house of cards fall down, in the UK at least. People may on the whole not care about adult women's rights very much, but they will most definitely care about children being put at risk.

When you think about it, stripping out or undermining safeguarding structures is really the only explanation for why an NHS service could be operating in the way GIDS has been reported to. Yet another depressing example of safeguarding seemingly disintegrating as soon as trans children are part of the picture.

McDuffy · 08/07/2020 06:05

I dug yesterday. I've had a big paycut due to COVID but my remaining spending allowance seems to all go on crowdfunding Grin and to Lumos!

Igmum · 08/07/2020 06:00

Pledged, also with no additional donations to CJ. Thanks for letting us know about this OP.

TehBewilderness · 08/07/2020 04:40

What does this mean?
It means they are not adding an extra donation to Crowd Justice. The site gets a cut of the money donated but no additional donation.

TehBewilderness · 08/07/2020 04:36

@Thinkingabout1t

What! Mumsnet, what is going on?

I made a perfectly innocent posting, that I'd pledged to Sonia and also to Raquel Rosario Sanchez who has been harassed by transactivists since 2018 and is now suing Bristol University for not defending her rights.

And my post has been disappeared - "This post has been hidden until the MNHQ team can have a look at it." What on earth was wrong with it?

You may have used a forbidden term or reference. If they don't put it back you can ask them why it was deleted by reporting the post yourself.
NotBadConsidering · 08/07/2020 02:50

The lack of safeguarding discussed in the Newsnight report was shocking. Good luck to her.

OldCrone · 08/07/2020 02:20

@Thinkingabout1t

What! Mumsnet, what is going on?

I made a perfectly innocent posting, that I'd pledged to Sonia and also to Raquel Rosario Sanchez who has been harassed by transactivists since 2018 and is now suing Bristol University for not defending her rights.

And my post has been disappeared - "This post has been hidden until the MNHQ team can have a look at it." What on earth was wrong with it?

Did you post a link to the crowdjustice site? I think MNHQ delete links to crowdfunding sites.
Lockdownseperation · 08/07/2020 02:16

@Imnobody4

Thanks for this. Have donated without adding the CJ donation which I have always added, in case anyone is taking notice.
What does this mean?
HeistSociety · 08/07/2020 01:58

@Thinkingabout1t

What! Mumsnet, what is going on?

I made a perfectly innocent posting, that I'd pledged to Sonia and also to Raquel Rosario Sanchez who has been harassed by transactivists since 2018 and is now suing Bristol University for not defending her rights.

And my post has been disappeared - "This post has been hidden until the MNHQ team can have a look at it." What on earth was wrong with it?

Raquel is a woman of colour.

It seems highly suspect for posts relating to her experience of bullying and intimidation at a UK University and her attempts to seek redress to be censored on Mumsnet.

HeistSociety · 08/07/2020 01:55

Have contributed.