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Eric Joyce pleads guilty to offence of making indecent image of child

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RoyalCorgi · 07/07/2020 13:28

Looks like he might go to jail.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jul/07/ex-labour-mp-eric-joyce-faces-jail-after-admitting-child-abuse-image-offence

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RoyalCorgi · 08/07/2020 10:10

It must be awful to go through what she's going through and to have all your certainties stripped away.

And here's the world's smallest violin playing for India Knight.

She stood by him even after two convictions for violence, one for breach of the peace and another for drunk driving. She even made light of the second conviction for assault, tweeting something that implied he'd been provoked by the teenagers in question. (What she tweeted was: "Goodnight! I shall return when @ericjoyce is let off tomorrow for not taking kindly to being aggressed by, um, ‘excitable’ teenagers.” She then added: “Don’t intimidate people who might intimidate you back, is the lesson. Especially in a corner shop at 5pm.”)

If she is indeed continuing to stand by him after he has been downloading Category A child sex abuse then it's difficult to muster up any sympathy for her. I don't know if she is standing by him or not but he gave their shared address in court.

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bishopgiggles · 08/07/2020 10:09

I don't know anything about the case but if you open an email that contains images you are downloading that image, unless you have specifically set up your device to not download email images. Is it possible for someone to maliciously send illegal images for that purpose? (Not offering a defence in this case, just interested more widely)

Binterested · 08/07/2020 10:04

Oh interesting - the Jane Harris info. That explains why IK has been so silent on this issue. In her heart she knows. But her violent, sex offender partner is telling her that sex is irrelevant.

I'm not a fan to be honest but this does make me feel sorry for her. It must be awful to go through what she's going through and to have all your certainties stripped away. I think she might be the kind of woman who clings onto the idea of a thing long after the facts have become clear. Hence apparently standing by her man and hence not being willing to opine on whether men can become women and the transing of children.

SparklingLime · 08/07/2020 10:03

A few GC tweets don’t cut it if she is supporting this dangerous man.

Fanthorpe · 08/07/2020 10:01

Ik now has a column in the main paper as well as her beauty column in the mag. Her surname is from one of her stepfathers, Andrew Knight, who is Chair of Times Newspaper Holdings.

She is GC, she’s tweeted and re-tweeted a number of supportive things.

potter5 · 08/07/2020 09:57

He should go to prison for a very long time.

SparklingLime · 08/07/2020 09:53

Whilst telling women that sex is an outdated construct.

SparklingLime · 08/07/2020 09:49

Yes, he’s clearly a thug, but this latest is a very extreme offence. He downloaded Category A footage of a baby and other children being sexually abused.
“Category A - Images involving penetrative sexual activity, sexual activity with an animal or sadism.” (From CPS.gov.uk)

DidoLamenting · 08/07/2020 09:40

I've noticed that Knight's columns haven't been in the Sunday Times for about three or four weeks

She had articles in every week in June.

SerenityNowwwww · 08/07/2020 09:39

My old mum - she left school, worked for married and had kids. Not a doctor or psychologist, lawyer or scientist - but she had a bloody inbuilt radar when it came to ‘those men’.

She correctly identified so many who have now been outed as pedophiles, DV types or rapists.

But ‘without evidence’ you can only really watch and keep an eye on such people eh? ‘Hysterical’ women aren’t listened to.

AgentProvocateur · 08/07/2020 09:37

Eric Joyce is just a thug. He has a long list of previous offences. The only surprise is that he held onto his job for so long.

Redshoeblueshoe · 08/07/2020 09:37

His Twitter account has not been revoked
Strange
Unlike Glinners.
Is it too early for Gin ?

SparklingLime · 08/07/2020 09:36

Exactly, Serenity, it’s a definite theme, and extremely worrying.

SerenityNowwwww · 08/07/2020 09:33

We can see this. Why can’t others see this?

SparklingLime · 08/07/2020 09:31

Stonewall supporter.

twitter.com/blablafishcakes/status/1280631246658437122?s=21

Eric Joyce pleads guilty to offence of making indecent image of child
Eric Joyce pleads guilty to offence of making indecent image of child
SerenityNowwwww · 08/07/2020 09:29

Sparkling - there have been a few who have been very vocal then come a cropper. I’m sure there’s some research to be done there...

FizzyPink · 08/07/2020 09:28

I wouldn’t worry too much about India Knight @twoHopes she’s an awful individual. Joyce has been in trouble before for attacking various people and India spent a lot of time threatening to send him round to women on twitter’s houses after they insulted one of her friends. Lovely couple

SparklingLime · 08/07/2020 09:27

Oh and guess what? Child sex offender Eric Joyce believes males should be allowed in women’s and girls’ loos.

He tweeted his lack of concern re single-sex facilities whilst awaiting trial for child sex abuse:

twitter.com/jennymarra/status/1213582196591779841?s=21

Eric Joyce pleads guilty to offence of making indecent image of child
SerenityNowwwww · 08/07/2020 09:25

horrible. It would appear that certain voices really do need their hard drives checked.

twoHopes · 08/07/2020 09:21

The spam email thing is bullshit. People don't send category A child abuse videos (i.e. the kind of stuff that puts you straight in prison) to random people on the internet. Why would they?

I don't know much about India Knight but I hope she's ok.

nauticant · 08/07/2020 09:18

Yes, it did strike me that the reporting on this has been surprisingly coy and it's been up to the reviled Daily Mail to reveal enough of the story to properly inform the public.

PegasusReturns · 08/07/2020 09:13

It’s not a big story because IK is a media darling.

She has a lot of clout and no one wants to piss her off.

ElizabethMainwaring · 08/07/2020 09:06

I've noticed that Knight's columns haven't been in the Sunday Times for about three or four weeks.

Siablue · 08/07/2020 08:59

It is amazing this isn’t a bigger story. A former MP commits the most abhorrent crime.

RoyalCorgi · 08/07/2020 08:43

There's a very good piece in the Mail today:

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8499753/ANDREW-PIERCE-final-shame-violent-ex-major-bragged-touch-Im-MP.html

Also has an explanation of what happened, which wasn't in the Guardian story:

"Joyce, who has a string of convictions, admitted searching for child abuse images on the internet while he was having problems with alcohol. Ipswich Crown Court heard that he claimed the vile footage arrived on his computer in a spam email – but confirmed he was aware of it."

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