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Eric Joyce pleads guilty to offence of making indecent image of child

169 replies

RoyalCorgi · 07/07/2020 13:28

Looks like he might go to jail.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jul/07/ex-labour-mp-eric-joyce-faces-jail-after-admitting-child-abuse-image-offence

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southeastdweller · 12/08/2020 08:41

Another possible reason that people including Turner and Moran have been silent about it is because they're worried for their jobs, what with IK's stepfather being the chairman of Times Newspaper Holdings Ltd.

Julie Burchill's written an article about the media silence - looking forward to reading it.

PotholeParadise · 10/08/2020 15:02

I wouldn't expect India's RL friends to comment. They're probably quietly despairing and trying to support her to see through his excuses, as do the friends of less well-connected women in similar situations. Public comments on twitter would undermine that.

QuarantineDream · 10/08/2020 14:30

One of the reasons he was given a suspended sentence was because, according to his barrister:

"Since that time, he has given up drinking, found a partner that he loves, she loves him and they have made a life together.”

If that partner is indeed IK, she has allowed their relationship to be used to mitigate Joyce's sentence.

His sentence for watching babies be raped.

Link to reporting: www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/eric-joyce-suspended-sentence-former-labour-mp-a4519216.html

merrymouse · 10/08/2020 11:44

I mean that they know India Knight, and probably her children, as real people, so of course they aren't commenting on twitter. It's not a case of loyalty/not loyalty, its a case of knowing how to treat somebody else as a fellow human being.

There is no reason that they should have to express every thought on every subject on twitter, and certainly no reason that they should have to make a personal statement vis a vis their colleague/friend who has not been accused of anything.

southeastdweller · 10/08/2020 11:22

@merrymouse

What’s almost as disgusting as his sentence is the lack of comments on social media from certain people about today’s news - Hadley Freeman, Janice Turner and the like. Very, very disappointing. Oh wait...they’re friends with his wife

I don't think 'not commenting on social media' is a sign that they approve of his actions. I think it is a sign that they are human beings. Of course they aren't commenting on twitter.

What exactly do you mean? That they’re being loyal to IK?
Deliriumoftheendless · 10/08/2020 11:19

And yet people still refuse to accept that children are the most vulnerable in society.

merrymouse · 10/08/2020 11:18

What’s almost as disgusting as his sentence is the lack of comments on social media from certain people about today’s news - Hadley Freeman, Janice Turner and the like. Very, very disappointing. Oh wait...they’re friends with his wife

I don't think 'not commenting on social media' is a sign that they approve of his actions. I think it is a sign that they are human beings. Of course they aren't commenting on twitter.

KimThomas · 10/08/2020 11:06

I've written about the sentencing of Joyce and other sex offenders here:

www.uncancelled.co.uk/tie-world/eric-joyces-suspended-sentence-for-child-sex-offences-shames-us-all/

Uncancelled is a new site that aims to challenge cancel culture so thought this an appropriate place to post.

Siablue · 07/08/2020 19:03

Does anyone legal know if it is possible for his sentence to be reviewed. He was sentenced in the Crown Court it is also his third offence.

www.gov.uk/ask-crown-court-sentence-review

boreda11 · 07/08/2020 18:34

Judges are too often swayed by sob stories. Even if only a few weeks, part of his sentence should have been in prison.

Siablue · 07/08/2020 16:51

@Patch23042

I hope that the disabled teen who lives with him is safe. Couldn’t care less about India Knight - she’s pathetic and desperate if she stays with him - that child’s wellbeing is what is paramount.

India’s bootlickers won’t comment on Twitter. They worry for their jobs.

A suspended sentence for masturbating over a 12mo baby being penetrated though. What a world.

That is it. People go to jail for much less. How could anyone bear to look at him.

I hope India’s daughter is ok.

Patch23042 · 07/08/2020 16:26

I hope that the disabled teen who lives with him is safe. Couldn’t care less about India Knight - she’s pathetic and desperate if she stays with him - that child’s wellbeing is what is paramount.

India’s bootlickers won’t comment on Twitter. They worry for their jobs.

A suspended sentence for masturbating over a 12mo baby being penetrated though. What a world.

DidoLamenting · 07/08/2020 16:04

@timetest

Is he still with his wife?
I'm guessing yes- hence the lack of comments/low key reporting.
timetest · 07/08/2020 15:30

Is he still with his wife?

AuntyPasta · 07/08/2020 15:02

‘Impulsive behaviour’? Is that what we’re calling it nowadays ...

Fanthorpe · 07/08/2020 14:54

He said previously that he’d be making a full statement.

southeastdweller · 07/08/2020 14:47

What’s almost as disgusting as his sentence is the lack of comments on social media from certain people about today’s news - Hadley Freeman, Janice Turner and the like. Very, very disappointing. Oh wait...they’re friends with his wife Hmm

irishfeminist · 07/08/2020 14:46

There's an astonishing omerta on Twitter due to his powerful, connected partner. Appalling hypocrisy and cowardice.

Imnobody4 · 07/08/2020 14:04

The judge said Joyce had "sought help" and there was evidence he had been able to "reduce, perhaps completely" his "impulsive behaviour".
What evidence, I'd like to know.

ChampagneCommunist · 07/08/2020 13:30

What a pathetic sentence.

But can a man like that stay out of trouble?

Fanthorpe · 07/08/2020 13:12

He’s been given eight months suspended for two years.

Fanthorpe · 10/07/2020 14:08

The judge will hopefully make sentencing remarks which will give a clearer view of events, especially around how it was discovered.

SparklingLime · 10/07/2020 11:06

@nauticant

It's a good example of how lack of accurate reporting is allowing Joyce's version to spread in the public domain.
Absolutely this. It’s so insidious.
Fanthorpe · 09/07/2020 20:30

I’m sorry I was unclear, I was referring to PP’s who said that they doubted he could have been set up as no one would send unsolicited material, this clearly isn’t the case, as the police information describes.

As I said earlier in the thread he didn’t act correctly if it was as he described, and as RoyalCorgi says he admitted to searching.

nauticant · 09/07/2020 20:07

It's a good example of how lack of accurate reporting is allowing Joyce's version to spread in the public domain.