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Guardian back into the fray

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Kit19 · 07/07/2020 08:17

With a sorrowful piece from a TW about how what’s going on the media doesn’t reflect the reality on the ground & TW & feminists are really allies fighting the same battles

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/07/2020 08:39

The piece does not actually counter any points made by gender critical feminists, it is just another claim for the moral high ground.

YY.

zanahoria · 07/07/2020 08:34

The piece does not actually counter any points made by gender critical feminists, it is just another claim for the moral high ground.

HeistSociety · 07/07/2020 08:31

God, I'm not going to give the big G the click. Fuck 'em.

HeistSociety · 07/07/2020 08:30

In what way do they suggest we're fighting the same battles?

My feminism, such as it is, has largely been around women's reproductive health, decrim of abortion, maternity leave, breastfeeding support and mother friendly lactation rooms in the workplace.

There were zero TW working alongside. Unsurprisingly, as they don't have female reproductive systems, don't get pregnant, don't need abortions or pregnancy/birth care, don't require maternity leave and definitely should not be in a mother friendly lactation room!

The Guardian is just playing a cruel game. At a time when women's employment (where I am at least) has suffered disproportionately compared to male employment due to coronavirus, they should be doing better 'gender' journalism.

This guff is cheap, that's all.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 07/07/2020 08:29

I'm not keen on the "allies" concept in general but if we're going to go down that route I think I'm going to have to insist that it come with considerably less chance of death threats.

Siablue · 07/07/2020 08:26

rogdmum in what way was it enlightening?

rogdmum · 07/07/2020 08:24

Last December I attended an event at the University of Edinburgh about Trans and the Law. This was exactly the strategy they outlined. They thought it very important that they get feminists to accept that they are fighting the same battle and therefore should be natural allies. It was an utterly enlightening event.

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