Guardian back into the fray

Those pieces always read like they should be on someone's blog, which creates a rather painful contrast with the work of actual journalists like Moore and Freeman.

The Guardian seems to think they need to run a piece about trans voices, programmes, struggles, initiatives, misrepresentation etc... almost every day. I guess they feel they need to 'make up' for Suzanne Moore and Hadley Freeman. Always happy to read all points of view, but these pieces - like today's - are so light weight. God, it's tedious.

They love the whole "cis" crap because it also includes gay people, so they are then also oppressors too because even though they are homosexual, they are happy being their sex.

We’re comments enabled on the article?

Not that I could see. In so-called "Comment is Free" this is their policy with trans articles, I think, and has been for some time. Because I think they know that a substantial chunk of their readership doesn't agree.

This

And also, the Guardian editorial line: www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/05/the-guardian-view-on-the-pandemics-impact-on-women-sound-the-alarm

And again: www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/jun/23/the-coronavirus-backlash-how-the-pandemic-is-destroying-womens-rights

You have to wonder about the cognitive dissonance.

Meanwhile in the Guardian:

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/07/how-coronavirus-is-widening-the-uk-gender-pay-gap

At the centre of women’s predicament is the expectation that they will sacrifice their own economic viability to provide care at home.

This is a long and detailed article that makes absolutely no sense if 'woman' is just an identity.

Imagine saying this to any other group.
To gay people- we are going to take away your right to marriage but come on we are all fighting the same oppression.
To people with disabilities- we are going to take away legislation relating to disability discrimination in the workplace but come on show some compromise.

Waving my ovaries sounds like a lot of work, can I just sort of gently sway them as I walk to the kitchen to make a cup of tea instead?

Also in the Guardian today - sex-based inequality. Not a choice or an identity but the consequence of having female sex based reproductive capacity. I note the trans-feminist alliance article didn't actually mention any point of political commonality other than definitions of femaleness and identity.

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/07/how-coronavirus-is-widening-the-uk-gender-pay-gap

We’re comments enabled on the article? Would be interesting to see what responses it has got

What do people like that even think an innate experience of womanhood or manhood is?

We don't count - so whatever our experience of womanhood is, it doesn't count. Hence, whatever their experience is (the clothes, the makeup, the hair flicking, the knitting, the voices, the insta pictures) - that's the real deal. There's nothing else to it. Everything else is us being mean and ovary waving.

Give up your territory claim and we can be friends

They are essentially playing Hitler and right now we seem to have a legion of Chamberlain's song everything is fine. I would call JK Rowling Churchill but I don't know if she wants the moniker. I'm still impressed she had the courage to put her head above the parapet.

"Bodies and their sex characteristics have material reality, a reality that trans people know all too well."

Isn't this exactly what JK Rowling was saying? Which was apparently so hideously transphobic she had to be threatened with corrective rape, baseball bats, dying in a grease fire, etc?

deal generously, not defensively, with change

Yes, come on, ladies - be generous with those sports trophies! Just share those prisons and rape centres!

I would love them to run an art on this topic that made some actual suggestions and accepted that feminists have real concerns. We could come to agreement on many things if there was as a civil discussion but that isn’t happening.

The Guardian always runs cheap click bait, whilst proclaiming what wonderful journalism they do.

I actually don't mind their news, but the whole paper runs on opinion. They're cynics, playing both sides, though with a fair bit of joy when they get to poke women.

Thank God for Hadley.

And yet today they also have an article today about women losing the gender war in Coronavirus times and mothers being 47% more likely to lose their jobs.

The Guardian slways runs articles from opposing points of view on any subject, not necessarily on the same day.

Absolutely everything Heist said.

I don't really understand in what way feminists and trans activists are supposed to be allies.

My feminism is based on trying to dismantle sex-based oppression, not trying to create some kind of fantasy alliance with male-bodied people who wish to use my safe spaces.

I’ve read it now. It took a lot of words to say nothing. Literally nothing.

Every now and again on a feminist thread someone will say "isn't feminism about equality for all?"
That's essentially what this is saying too I think.

Brexiteers always said that too.

It annoyed me then as well.

They are such colonisers.

"Give up your territory claim and we can be friends"