Showing that feminists don't all hate heterosexual male sexuality

I don't understand the phobia of barefoot shoes here. They aren't attractive, but they aren't scary, either.

@IronPyrites Thanks for reading the article, this is something I feel very strongly about. We all have the right to self improvement and we all have to own our shit.

[quote IronPyrites]@TheInebriati I tried to send you a pm but it didn't work. I did read the article you sent and I think I get what Meghan is saying. I'm sorry for what I posted I can see now it was fairly ridiculous.[/quote]
Well done OP for coming back.

My friend runs in those barefoot shoes with toes. They freak me out. I can't look at her feet.

She runs on trails. She tries to get me to try it. Nope. She is a much better runner than me and is skinny as a rail unlike me. My peppa pig style clompy running would get me an injury rather quickly I think.

Plus DH is even more freaked by them than me. He could be scarred for life and never caress my lower zones again.

• I used to wear toe socks when they were a thing about 25 years ago

I had rainbow toe socks. About 35 years ago.*

I had a couple of pairs of toe socks in 1975 - 45 years ago.

Did anyone have them 15 or 5 years ago?

Feminism isn't anti men

Feminism is pro-women

HTH.

So a man can't get any sex

He could examine his behaviour and try to make himself more likeable, Maybe he could ask a few female friends and um, listen to them

Or her could just blame the nasty pasty feminists

In doing the later he show that as well as his below par looks and social skills, his analytical skills are pretty poor too

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socks_and_sandals
Did you know that there is a wikipedia article about socks and sandals
Wearing socks and sandals together is a controversial fashion combination and social phenomenon that is discussed in various countries and cultures

Kitten. Guiness cake is the bees knees. Fact.

Crocs. I once bought a pair of fur lined pink crocs in the sale. Not real fur, just white fabric fluffy stuff. They were great, and I only fell out with them when I tripped over my laptop wire one day, and partly due to there being no give in the sole and my being a lardarse they killed my poor pooter dead.

I think I know where the OP is coming from.
I have known over the years guys that are ok people, quite reasonable and not sexist who due to just not being at all charasmatic and not socially skilled at all have never had a relationship.
I think the thing is that for an average looking woman with not much social skills its still possible to find someone who will have sex with you where as for these guys its not the same story.
And I think its more lonelyness and not having someone to share life with than sex.

No feminist, except maybe a few ultra hard-core radicals, are suggesting that men can't express their sexuality, and none are suggesting celibacy. Men and women are sexual beings and always going to check each other out.

A discreet admiring glance at an attractive woman walking down the street = fine
Ogling or cat calling = not fine.

It's not rocket science.

Oh.

No.

What?🤣

Socks and Crocs is non-sweaty foot-comfort AND minimises the risk of being subjected to a heterosexual man’s ‘romantic frustrations’.

2 birds, one man-repelling stone!

I had rainbow toe socks. About 35 years ago.

Another day another thread with "hate" in the title.

I hate that.

Firstly I feel I should put in the disclaimer that I’m a man so acknowledge I can only give an outsiders, not an experts, opinion.

Having read through the thread, OP I think your intentions are clearly good, looking at whether a change of tact could help the feminism, however, it feels like an apologists stance that doesn’t feel warranted.

Of course it’s fair to say some men, as individuals, have been unlucky in love and potentially even treated badly, but that wasn’t because they were a man and therefore isn’t a persecuted men, as a collective, issue. I believe you’d need to be either incredibly ignorant or warped to not recognise the advantages men have had in terms of opportunities in nearly all aspects of Life (Education, relationships, democracy, employment...the list goes on) across all of history.

I can see no reason why feminism should water down its message or soften the ambitions to placate men...what other ‘movement’ would change its agenda and messaging for the benefit of people outside of the membership.

I’m sure some men (and women) do view feminism as anti men but, in my experience, that is for one of two reasons:

1. There sole exposure to feminism is tabloid headlines or twitter. If they c ant be bothered enough to read, ask or learn any greater level of detail, why the hell should you spoon feed them and/or change your approach

2. They see no problem in the ‘good old days’ and find it easier to throw stones at feminists and women in general than consider their own behaviours, recognising some things they do/have done and contemplate modifying their actions.

Apologies this has become quite a long rant, especially on a subject I’m clearly far from an expert on but that’s my two pence anyway

I used to wear toe socks when they were a thing about 25 years ago

@IronPyrites Have you left the thread? Megan Murphy just wrote an interesting article about co-dependancy. This paragraph might help;

''But the things we do to “keep the peace” do not actually make us feel more peaceful. They make us feel anxious and resentful; unheard, unseen, and misunderstood. Our lives become entirely focused on another — controlled by stress and fear attached to someone else’s behaviour. And rather than detaching, we stick around, trying to manufacture the perfect circumstances, behaviours, or scenarios, wherein we can finally relax.''
unherd.com/2020/07/dont-let-the-activists-grind-you-down/?tl_inbound=1&tl_groups[0]=18743&tl_period_type=3

It is ridiculous to ignore the absolute epidemic of male violence and sexual violence against women, then claim women need to step up to soothe men's hurt feelings.

Women cannot begin a relationship with a new man without taking steps to minimize the risk. Blaming women for the gulf between the sexes is not acceptable.

Good, not food, obv.

Some wetsuit boots have toes, but afaik windsurfers don't care about fashion. If you windsurf off a stony beach and have sensitive feet (food wetsuit boots have thin soles) the trick is to have a pair of crocs big enough to slip on over the boots, which you can leave tied up to a small buoy (drinks bottle attached to a rock will do).

This is the weetabix debacle again

I'm reporting all of you to the police for hate crimes against fashion, just so you know.