Showing that feminists don't all hate heterosexual male sexuality

Competence and toxic masculinity is not the same thing.

You are perpetuating the nonsense that you claim to rail against.

Its precisely that dominant, strong competance in a man that women are attracted to.

I think that as male competence and their desire to succeed in the world is marked by many women as a bad thing, its increasingly become obvious that women have a deep craving for parts of this sort of 'toxic masculinity' and its actually manifested itself in all sorts of ways.

Take the book 50 shades. If you were to have said beforehand that a book was going to be published about a girl where she was stalked, taken home drunk beyond the point of where it was consenting, threatened with physical violence and subject to controlling and jealous behaviour, you'd have said this would have been a book women were outraged about and wanted banned from bookstores.

But what happened? It was the fastest selling book in history with women across the globe desperate to get there hands on it to get off on the content. That was something no one would have seen coming and I put down to male behaviour in general being so supressed in normal society nowadays.

My ex is a brilliant father but we’re still not quite 50/50 because he wants the extra time for career development. We split It 3 nights and 4 nights and he pays some maintenance to make up the difference. We live close to each other so DD can have the same set of friends and neighbours whichever house she is staying at that night.

He defers a little of his share of responsibility to me because that works best for him (and our child). I get compensated for picking up his slack.

I reckon most mothers would be content with similar - it changes if the ex is an irresponsible dickhead and changes further if the the ex is abusive. No reason not to expect the same to apply vice versa.

Parental responsibility not parental rights.

I hear my exes active part in his daughter’s life and peaceful coparenting relationship with me make him an attractive dating prospect too (proven track record of not being an irresponsible dickhead)!

You're very contradictory in your replies, if 80 hour weeks are negatively effecting the ability to be a primary care giver, and you're saying equal amounts of women should do these jobs, that would suggest you think its a good idea that men are given equal responsibility of primary care??

BTW im not an MRA, I dont see what rights men could want that they dont really have. I'm very neutral and see the men vs women battle as very damaging to our societal fabric.

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He’s mulling it over lang that’ll be it

Ds2 often does that when i say something meaningful...which is frequently

It may take him a while...in ds2 cases its taking years

But one day he will acknowledge your deepness

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He's 15 Rufus - he grunted and put his earphones back on

Over lockdown i have told dd that if she eats any more chocolate chip cookies that she will turn into one...is that similar

They'd be losing 50% of their parental rights for starters. Im sure some men would just love a bit more of this equality!

When it comes to children, it's the children who have rights; parents have the responsibilities. A world in which more men accepted their full share of responsibility would be great. (And in the context of the subject of the thread, I'd take a bet a lot of them have good sex lives too.)

I have just told ds he is not a pie.

No the kids reside with the mother first and foremost.
I've just this minute responded to a comment on another thread where you have been talking about how men get the top jobs cos they want to work 80 hour weeks and women don't.
Can you not see how men working 80 hour weeks is incompatible to them having custody of children were they to split up from their wife? Or that the children might prefer to stay with the person who's been their primary caregiver while dads been working 80 hours?
The children's needs come first. Men aren't entitled to custody (neither are women) and need to start owning their choices. If they've chosen to work long hours, or just not be involved in childcare, or be abusive to their wife and children, is it any surprise those children are better off with their mum?

Ooh an old school MRA. Goody .

Did someone walk over a bridge?

Children are not pies.
'Pie' is what I call my children and grandchildren. I shall endeavor to stop. Children are not pies.

I wonder why you would go back that far in this thread when you already posted on it yesterday morning. I’m sure it’s totally unconnected to a difference of opinion on another thread.

What are you trying to say about parental rights? Both parents male or female have exactly the same parental responsibilities. It’s not pie.

Careful what you wish for.

Most men don't seem to understand how very important having a sense of humor is to women.

And some of them don't seem to realise that a GSOH is a completely different thing to 'likes "banter"'.

DuDuDuLangaLangaBingBong Did you check it for secret codes and messages?

Totally agree re: tedious hobbies. I’d rather date a man with an old banger/no car at all than a man that talks about boring shit all the bloody time.

Doesn't it just!
I had a car that I was not aware d00dz coveted. Randoms would want to talk to me about it and frequently offer much less than it was worth to buy it.
Boring. I gave it to eldest to be shut of it.

You can see why I married him.

Indeed I can. Though presumably you were wrong not to ask about his car instead?

I had one ex who was car mad and had some kind of vintage sporty thing. Bored the shit out of me, honestly. I have nothing against people having hobbies that I don't share but it gets a bit tedious when they bend your ear about them all the time.

My DH, turned up to our first date with a gift for me. An enormous, fabric bound, coffee table type book of war photography.

This book was issued as fixed set of a 1000 copies - mine is number 1001, so it technically doesn’t exist. My DH works in the book binding industry and had printed and bound an additional copy, just for me.

You can see why I married him.
It was bloody heavy to carry home, mind you!