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James O’Brien

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EweSurname · 06/07/2020 16:59

He’s said something more than a little bit TERFY but has yet to be invited to suck lady dicks or die in a fire (as far as I can see).

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Roseburn · 06/07/2020 18:12

There's a few who I think would relish genital inspections. Can you imagine their delight? Inspect my lady dick?

FantaOra · 06/07/2020 18:08

That thread has brought out the angry ranters going on about genital inspections.

Every time I see that I just envisage all of the late transitioning men in their strategy conferences saying "let's get everyone ranting about genital inspections and frighten off everyone".

It's such a transparent tactic I just want to laugh.

Highperbolay · 06/07/2020 18:07

Paris is really upset by this. To be fair, I kind of feel a little bit sorry for Paris, because before the TRA batshittery, a small number of transwomen were using the toilets and women were generally OK with that very small number of 'genuine' transwomen doing this.

But TRAs have pushed and pushed this. Not happy to be accepted in female spaces as a courtesy, they have pushed and pushed the 'TWAW' , the self id, the 'i am whatever I say I am', the 'wax my balls', the 'let my rapist penis into women's prisons', the 'I am a woman because I say so, now let me into the women's changing rooms', the 'if you don't completely capitulate you are a bigoted cunt who can suck my girl dick'.

And women have realised that the 'Choke on my girl dick brigade' are the exact same people who want access to their safe spaces. And are now saying NO!

And so here we are....

Floisme · 06/07/2020 18:04

Soz - I got a message to say it hadn't posted the first time Blush

Floisme · 06/07/2020 18:03

Whether or not I like him is neither here nor there. I think it would be very significant if someone with an audience like his were to change his mind, and judging by who's on that thread, a number of TRAs think so too.

He'll almost certainly wilt under pressure this time, as did JKR, Martina, Robert Webb and many more but, once you start thinking about it, the game's usually up.

Floisme · 06/07/2020 18:03

Whether or not I like him is neither here nor there. I think it would be very significant if someone with an audience like his were to change his mind, and judging by who's on that thread, a number of TRAs think so too.

He'll almost certainly wilt under pressure this time, as did JKR, Martina, Robert Webb and many more but, once you start thinking about it, the game's usually up.

FantaOra · 06/07/2020 17:59

JOB is the living breathing woolley minded liberal on this subject.

Highperbolay · 06/07/2020 17:56

I think he does get it, he just can't bear not being wokey mcwoke face and hates himself slightly for understanding completely why many people have concerns.

Yes this.

He is an intelligent man, he knows this has an effect on women. I have heard 2 of his shows discussing this issue - the first one with with a lady from this board and she made some really good points and he came across like a total misogynistic arse. The second one he had obviously thought about the issue and had a slightly different tone.

He fucking knows that penises shouldn't be in female spaces. He doesn't want his daughters sharing vulnerable spaces with cock, what father does?

But Paris always does the whole 'wouldn't you want to share a changing room with little old me' thing - they did it to Emma Watson too. Paris has been buddied up to JOB in the past too, he interviewed them and they posed for BFF pics together, so Paris can turn that thumbscrew that little bit tighter.

Quite the corner you have backed yourself into James Smile

I see Katy Montgomery is on that thread plugging their own (hours long) essay on JKR too - is there a trans thread on Twitter they haven't posted it on?!

HandsOffMyRights · 06/07/2020 17:55

@EweSurname

Here you go handsoffmyrights
Thanks Ewe It was as I thought Hmm
PurpleHoodie · 06/07/2020 17:45

I don't think he gives a shit about why women are so concerned about it because he's not bothered about women. But he understands it from the point of view that he doesn't think children should be chemically sterilised, that he doesn't believe penises should be around his daughters and he wouldn't sleep with a transwoman himself even if he has no problem with transwomen generally.

To be honest, exwhyzed (like the duality name)
is correct.

James O'B is a Lefty in the Tweets and A Righty in the streets.

Disappointed.

Impatiens · 06/07/2020 17:42

He does sound like a spineless jelly in those tweets, very different from the usual arrogant certainty, riding in on his charger.

This isn't a subject you can be wishy-washy on, you have to state your opinion and your reasons. If he can't do that he should shove off til he's made his mind up.

nauticant · 06/07/2020 17:41

I'd agree with that summary exwhyzed.

In many ways O'Brien presents himself as a leader when he's very much of a follower, in terms of presenting a "safe" set of views to his audience.

PurpleHoodie · 06/07/2020 17:40

I actually don't agree with that Kit19.

There's a chance he still would listen to both sides, but he believes both NEED a compelling argument.

Of course GC (female and male) voices have compelling arguments.

Everyday of saying that however, the odds get longer as he ages.

He's a Lefty bloke (said with neutrality)

Right Wing men think women are private property.

Left wing men think women are public property.

James O'Brian:
Until something negatively involving males happened to one of his own two daughters/wife, he'll go for the -

Women and womens spaces must be available for men at anytime, stance. Including women being in prison for any minor reason being raped by males who demand to be put there.

Or women who've had their ribs/arms/skull broken broken by relatives turning up at a refuge finding rats pinned to the door/a flashing male in the bathroom/a man smirking at her children as he enters the room next to her in the womens Refuge.

He may still have time to gain a conscience.

ThinEndoftheWedge · 06/07/2020 17:39

Spineless and predictable.

exwhyzed · 06/07/2020 17:38

I've heard JOBBY speak on this a few times.

I think he does get it, he just can't bear not being wokey mcwoke face and hates himself slightly for understanding completely why many people have concerns.

I don't think he gives a shit about why women are so concerned about it because he's not bothered about women. But he understands it from the point of view that he doesn't think children should be chemically sterilised, that he doesn't believe penises should be around his daughters and he wouldn't sleep with a transwoman himself even if he has no problem with transwomen generally.

I'm pretty sure if more 'Lefty' male voices spoke out out about it expressing concern he would be all over it like a rash.

EweSurname · 06/07/2020 17:26

When I said row back, I meant from saying penises shouldn’t be in women only spaces.

Sadly, I don’t have much faith in James’ ability to really hear and appreciate women’s concerns.

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Kit19 · 06/07/2020 17:23

Ha! No chance he’ll row back

Of course he will speak to the mother of a trans child but he’ll never in a million years engage with any GC feminists

He’ll speak to the mother & then post a sorrowful bunch of tweets saying that if only GC women could speak to mothers of trans children they’d realise how mean & horrible they are & how trans ppl are the most oppressed ppl ever

EweSurname · 06/07/2020 17:22

Here you go handsoffmyrights

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nauticant · 06/07/2020 17:22

firmly

doolallyboo · 06/07/2020 17:22

unlikely

Kantastic · 06/07/2020 17:21

He is getting a pile on! But it's a guilt-tripping drown-you-in-syrup pile on not a DIE IN A FIRE TERF pile on.

I wonder if he will notice for himself the difference between what he's getting and what JKR got, and draw the relevant conclusions. Seems unlikely but people can surprise you.

doolallyboo · 06/07/2020 17:21

He's such a tool

EdgeOfACoin · 06/07/2020 17:20

Ah, shame if he's recanting!

PurpleHoodie · 06/07/2020 17:20

What "EdgeOfACoin" said.

"Suck my ladydick"
"Suck my ladydique" is rapey.

nauticant · 06/07/2020 17:20

I doubt he's changed his position bellinisurge. He's like the Pippa Bunce of firmy established positions.