Nicky Clark Interviews Susie Green (Mermaids) - Podcast

I noticed that SG says young people but NC says children.

I didn't realise that JG was only 7.5 years old at the time of a diagnosis.

Nicky Clark is doing an excellent job in this podcast. I’m about half way though now and it’s interesting how even SG stumbles over using the phrase “gender assigned at birth”. It’s almost like she’s forcing herself to overrule her brain from using the most natural phrase and using the made up jargon of this ideology.

Susie Green has to believe in what she says, otherwise what she did to her child is utterly unspeakable. She has to believe to justify it to herself.

They do refer to GIDS though if a GP refuses to refer.
How come Mermaids are allowed to refer to GIDS? Mind you, it wouldn't matter so much if GIDS were doing their job properly.

I’m quite shocked that Mermaids can refer families to GIDS. I would have thought only GPs or CAMHS could refer.

That was a masterclass in interviewing by Nicky Clark.

I would not have managed to do that without my eyerolling causing interference with the sound quality.

I don't think Susie Green is lying, she believes the stuff she says.

I think she is deluded because she knows that what she arranged for her 16 year old child is seen by most people, at best, as questionable.

Issues regarding problem with self ID would need to be along the lines of - how many prisoners are being transfered to the opposite sex estate.

Whats the online vs in store purchasing ratio.

Has there suddenly been a spike in female crininals

have they asked if women now stay home instead of going shopping/swimming etc

Do people even know about self ID.

Out of the number of illiterate adults, I believe 2/3rds or there abouts are indeed women. So thats a big chunk of people who wouldn't necessarily be aware of changes in legislation even be able to read signs on a door or info on a web site.

We also know that the rate of reporting for sexual assault is abysmal. So as far as that goes incidents could raise quite significantly with regards to men using the self ID clause to abuse women and that wouldn't really be noticed statistically because women don't report.

I've just listened while walking to work.

Several things are problematic.

The suggestion that they now have the words and the information etc - doesn't explain why if that's the case middle where are all the late transitioning transmen?

How can you claim that de transition is rare when you have no idea of the rates of detransition of the autistic girls whilst simultaneously knowing enough to make out that its society's fault/everyone else's fault that it didn't work out.

Again with the so called "rolling back of rights" there just isn't. If trans people have been told that the equality act doesn't in fact allow for the exclusion of those of who even have a grc in certain circumstances then don't you think that the people who told them they had free reign to every space should be held accountable for the misinformation as opposed to trying to frame it that nasty people are stopping them?

Where is the accountability for the false information they have been given.

Its all very well stressing that her kid was seen in 18 weeks and now trabs people have to wait years but she also teamed that with the fact that they were constantly checked up on. Forgetting about the waiting time for a second how can you have confidence in a pathway that no one is checking up on and you only have to have 3 appointments to be referred .GIDS themselves have already stated that there isn't long term follow up.

We already know that any crimes or whatever are recorded as gender and not sex so of course there will be the appearance of no issues in countries that already have self ID . We know this to be a lie anyway there have been some quote high profile cases in the news. Selina, alanna and Chelsea - the high school girls in conneticut who have lost out on medals and awards and girls missing scholarships to self identified transgender athletes and biological males competing in girls sports

Why would you lie about something that can be proved wrong with a split secomd Google

Just finished listening to it. That woman lies and twists facts the way most people breathe

Well done Nicky Clark for interviewing Susie as well as other guests, with very different viewpoints, for your podcast series. Eventually the opposing sides are going to have to listen to each other.

I'm 10 mins in and already Green is saying that they don't know why ASD girls are presenting with GD and it might be because they have the words, or more awareness.

TBF she prefixes this saying she's not a clinician but says there are about 1,900 parents and 800 young people in the Mermaid chat rooms.

They do refer to GIDS though if a GP refuses to refer.

Will listen to the whole thing...

Really?! Wow how did she manage that?!