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When a crime is committed by a trans woman...

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MsMarvellous · 05/07/2020 15:11

...is that crime committed as being recorded by a woman ONLY if the person has a GRC. Or is it recorded if that person simply declares they are a woman.

And if the latter who don't write to about that? Head of the Met? Local police forces? I'm trying to untangle one issue at a time and this is my current one

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crsacre · 05/07/2020 15:53

Women can be convicted for rape, under "joint enterprise". Presumably this is exceedingly rare.
www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/mar/17/sarahhall

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MsMarvellous · 05/07/2020 15:47

Thank you. I'm going to go and have a read n

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EyesOpening · 05/07/2020 15:46

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/contents

EyesOpening · 05/07/2020 15:38

Not sure how helpful this is but AFAIK rape is only when a penis is used (for want if a better word) (I don’t know anything about females assisting being classed as rape though) so I’d presume that they would all be TW

truthisarevolutionaryact · 05/07/2020 15:32

Fair Play for Women !

truthisarevolutionaryact · 05/07/2020 15:32

I think Fair lay for Women is the site to go for about this OP? They have analysed the shit and inaccurate Ministry of Justice crime figures.

fairplayforwomen.com/trans_prison_stats_2018/

fairplayforwomen.com/prison-data-confirmed/

GCITC · 05/07/2020 15:26

It's very rare for a woman to be guilty of rape, as women don't have penises. Women can only be found guilty of rape if they assist a man in raping someone I believe.

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MsMarvellous · 05/07/2020 15:26

I'm going to email. Looking up college of policing now!

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Staffori · 05/07/2020 15:24

I think in most cases, it is recorded as if the perpetrator is female but I'm not sure. It would be worth getting clarification from the College of Policing about this. If it proves to be a universal rule across all police forces in the country then a complaint should go to the very top.

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MsMarvellous · 05/07/2020 15:23

"Fewer than 20 women"

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MsMarvellous · 05/07/2020 15:23

Thanks. I'm looking at the MoJ and ONS stats now. Fewer than 20 percent Oman were sentenced to immediate custody for rape over the year to 2017 but I've no way of splitting those by women and trans women. It's infuriating

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truthisarevolutionaryact · 05/07/2020 15:21

it's the latter OP. It's all about self identification and Stonewall law (the mangled inaccurate version) as opposed to the law of the land that the rest of society has to follow.

Their crimes - no matter how heinous or male (ie rape with a penis) will be described as female crimes. Unforgivable.

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