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Trying to understand the hate trans people get on here.

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Kelcat9494 · 05/07/2020 11:35

Hello,

Firstly I want to say I am not attacking anyone on this forum and I expect the same respect as we are all entitled to an opinion and I am genuinely interested in the reasons why transgender people get so much hate on here:

Firstly I see a lot about not wanting to share bathrooms with trans women as it's a women's safe space - I don't really understand this because to be honest when I'm sat in the cubicle doing my business, I don't think about the persons genitals next to me, it's all very private as you know. The only thing we'd share is the sinks and I don't see a problem with that really. I did read a post about a abuse survivor not wanting to the share the bathroom with someone with a penis (I'm really sorry that the person went through the abuse but that isn't trans people's fault, the fault is with the abuser alone) but in reality a trans person is more at risk in the bathroom and you have no idea whether they are pre op or post op as again in the bathrooms I've been in we don't show each other our genitalia. They are genuinely just doing their human business in the same room as you so don't understand the problem, actually I suppose people are afraid some odd men would use being transgender as an excuse to use the woman's bathroom but that's not trans women's fault also by this logic if we don't want trans women in the bathroom then we should have transmen in there (either pre op or post op), I've posted some pictures below of transmen and woman, would you really want the trans women in men's bathroom and the transmen in the womens?? (I can only post three but you get my point).

I know JKRowling posted about periods and a lot of people jumped on it to say only women have periods and whatever, this isn't true though is it? Some biological women aren't able to have periods or carry a pregnancy or be able to give birth so if we don't see that as a problem as we recognise it's a biological issue then why is trans-men having a period a problem and trans women not having one an issue? And who actually cares? There's enough tampax to go around, maybe let's focus on making them free for women and transmen as I for one is sick of paying for a "luxury item" I need every month due to no fault of my own.

I can't think of anymore off the top of my head that's been posted but anything in the comments I'm happy to reply to but I genuinely think this forum needs to consider what transgender people actually go through, imagine not feeling like you're in the right body, being attacked and hated for who you are and it's obviously not for fun and games because transgender people actually commit suicide over the issues they face remember #bekind and really think how sharing a bathroom or sharing a tampax would affect you? I don't think you'd kill yourself over it.

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andyoldlabour · 05/07/2020 11:52

"I know JKRowling posted about periods and a lot of people jumped on it to say only women have periods and whatever, this isn't true though is it? Some biological women aren't able to have periods"

The fact that SOME women do not have periods, does not alter the fact that ONLY women have periods, so JKR was quite correct.
You have made exactly the same mistake as all those ignorant people who took part in the Twitter pile on.

ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 05/07/2020 11:52

Why is women having words to describe ourselves and ourselves alone, and the right to meet without men and their approval wrong?

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Kelcat9494 · 05/07/2020 11:51

@Prawnofthepatriarchy

It's pretty rude to assume that feminist criticism of gender ideology is uninformed or that any of the issues you raise are in any way novel. In fact threads like yours appear with monotonous regularity on this board.

i genuinely think this forum needs to consider what transgender people actually go through.

I think men who identify as women would do well to consider what women go through. Being kind is a one street with TRAs. We are not your support humans.

What would you suggest trans people need to consider? (Genuine question I'm learning)
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hellandhairnets · 05/07/2020 11:51

I think men who identify as women would do well to consider what women go through. Being kind is a one street with TRAs. We are not your support humans.

This.

I see little evidence of any wish by TRAs to listen to or understand women. It's a feminism board. It's going to be about women's rights and the stuff that affects women.

How about trying to understand the hate women get everywhere—and it is everywhere— just for having the temerity to say "we exist, have our own material needs & deserve rights too."

Furx · 05/07/2020 11:50

You do realise a lot of us on here ARE trans, because they can see how damaging the bullshit TRA ideology is.

And guess what... when the shit hits the fan and there’s pushback, it’s going to be the LGB and old skool trans who will suffer. The woke Rainbow warriors will melt back into the woodwork. Leaving us up shit creek.

LillianBland · 05/07/2020 11:49

Thank you for your opinion. I shall place it in my lessons on how to dismiss women’s rights box for reading later.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 05/07/2020 11:48

I think you've misunderstood OP. There's no hatred of trans people on here. This is the Feminism & Women's rights board and one of the things that women talk on here is about women's rights to same sex sport, refuges, prisons, spaces where women undress and are vulnerable, sex based language etc.
Your post suggests that you haven't really read many of the excellent informed threads on here - stick around and have a read. Like everyone, we can all learn.

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 05/07/2020 11:47

Welcome to Mumsnet and thank you for your interesting first post.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 05/07/2020 11:45

It's pretty rude to assume that feminist criticism of gender ideology is uninformed or that any of the issues you raise are in any way novel. In fact threads like yours appear with monotonous regularity on this board.

i genuinely think this forum needs to consider what transgender people actually go through.

I think men who identify as women would do well to consider what women go through. Being kind is a one street with TRAs. We are not your support humans.

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