Update from Allison Bailey

Hope Michael sodding Cashman reads it

Even thinking of Cashman makes me want to go back immediately and donate again

I hope with all my heart that this is the jenga block that will bring the Stonewall edifice of lies and bullying tumbling down. I've donated again and will keep doing so as long as Allison needs the money. I can supply a bit of that, but don't have the tiniest fraction of her courage and resilience.

I love that she's mentioned Magdalen Berns in her case, and said how she was inspired by her. It seems very right that Magdalen's legacy is being used to such massively positive and powerful effect.

I don't know how Allison keeps going. I feel such rage reading all this. This case really gets to me because it's just bullying. They can call it what they like but it's just old fashioned bullying. Hope Michael sodding Cashman reads it. Keep going Allison, get your day in court and shine a light on them all.

Thanks all!

allisonbailey.co.uk/updates/update-5-breaking-exclusive/

Stonewall didn't like what she was saying, so they asked to see her manager.

Their letter basically pretends that Allison was campaigning to change the law (eg remove trans rights), when in fact she wanted to keep the law the same, and it was Stonewall who were campaigning to change the law (making it impossible in practice for women to exercise some of their rights). I know that has been the line, the Stonewall narrative, on social media and to the public in the run up to self id consultation, but do they actually believe their own lies? They must do on some level to put them in writing to a bunch of lawyers.

Two of the complaints were upheld by the chambers!

The cotton ceiling will get in the news.

I wondered why the head of trans inclusion uses both 'he' and 'they' pronouns? Are they an only on Tuesdays and Thursdays person?

Can anyone summarise the email? My Twitter account is suspended pending appeal.

The email from Stonewall was so poorly drafted, it is threatening and coercive.
Alison's response was coherent, clear and incredibly-well referenced.
She is a successful barrister after all.

notbad

The only thing that letter is missing is that it wasn’t composed with the aid of scissors, a glue stick and a bunch of random letters cut out of magazines.

for Allison.

I would also offer to donate for every error of grammar and punctuation but I’m not rich enough. maybe suggest this tactic to JKR?

Stonewall write (their bold):

‘ Targeting a woman who works for us (our trans empowerment manager) and calling her a man “Morgan Page, a male”’

mobile.twitter.com/BluskyeAllison/status/1175739790181974017

This is that actual tweet:

Stonewall recently hired Morgan Page, a male bodied person who ran workshops with the sole aim of coaching heterosexual men who identify as lesbians on how they can coerce young lesbians into having sex with them. Page called “overcoming the cotton ceiling” and it is popular.

The sheer brass neck of them. The utter bastards. Do they think people wouldn’t click on the link? Do they think their assertion that Allison called someone who works for Stonewall a man wouldn’t be able to be seen for what it is, a complete falsehood?

I’m going to donate again just for that, the fuckers.

I would also offer to donate for every error of grammar and punctuation but I’m not rich enough.

What on earth were Garden Court chambers thinking? The letter is nothing more than a series of baseless allegations, rounded off by a threat, all of it written in the most illiterate prose. It’s absolutely outrageous that Allison has been treated in this way, and it is time to dig again, but thank God this is coming to light so that everyone can see Stonewall for what it has become.

Thank you for linking - she’s an extraordinary woman (not least for including the line “That would be transubstantiation which is not within the gift of legislation” )

The Stonewall letter was essentially “nice business, be a shame if anything happened to it...”

Allison’s response was forensic and brilliant.

Did a bit extra digging this morning.

Thanks for linking highame.

Reading that email, the bundle and Alison's rebuttal has really shaken me this morning, and I'm a tough bugger.

Nobody could read that and not be infuriated by the obvious injustice that Alison has suffered. I don't know how she's found the strength and determination to fight this but she's one amazing woman.

Just donated again there, keep going Allison x

Could Alison call a Forensic Scientist in to explain how they identify a dead body.
That if it was decomposed then it comes up as male or female.
That might be something that helps prove that presentation of the outer body does not remove the truth.

Omg, the grammar, the punctuation, it hurts! The conflating of "man" and "male"... also it seems odd to me to not also copy the text of the tweets but just provide links?

I just used this one rather than start another. Feel free to put it in a new thread

Such a massive difference between SW letter and Allison Bailey's response. I am staggered that Stonewall seem to be so inept on so many levels and yet have captured Whitehall, local authorities, NHS and so many others. Beggars belief

Thanks for this. Is there an "official" 3rd thread for the court case after this one:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4163253-Allison-Bailey-to-sue-Stonewall-thread-2?pg=1

got full up?