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Update from Allison Bailey

143 replies

Aesopfable · 05/07/2020 09:58

Didn’t see this on the current post about her fundraising but thought it deserved a post of its own.

mobile.twitter.com/BluskyeAllison/status/1278317988429561857

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PurpleHoodie · 13/03/2021 07:00
Daffodil
PurpleHoodie · 12/03/2021 20:28

So pretty Daffodil

MaudTheInvincible · 12/03/2021 20:02

Likewise Keira Bell's. Love the flowers in spring DaffodilDaffodilDaffodil

PurpleHoodie · 12/03/2021 19:50

Had a walk down the street and noticed Katie Alcocks front garden. It could do with some nice pretty flowers DaffodilDaffodilDaffodil

PurpleHoodie · 12/03/2021 19:35

So happy for Allison Star

That's awful yourhair.

If anyone is interested in gardening, there are some hints on what flowers to plant on the Ann Sinnott thread DaffodilDaffodil

yourhairiswinterfire · 12/03/2021 18:14

So chuffed for Allison! Amazing news.

Reading why CrowdJustice took her page down is just Angry

A bit that stood out was the prison part...Allison said the insertion of self-identifying trans women into the female prison population has resulted in the sexual assault and rape of women. CJ claim this implies that ''all or many trans people are violent or dangerous, etc.'' Confused

It's bothering me, because I'm wondering how CJ would have acted if the woman who recently took MoJ to court had needed to use CJ to fund the case.(Thankfully it seems she was entitled to legal aid, so didn't need to.)

Would her page be taken down too because she'd be ''implying that all or many trans people are violent or dangerous, etc.''? Would she be left with no access to justice in case speaking the truth hurt someone's feelings?

Thecatonthemat · 12/03/2021 17:57

Well done all of us and well done and good luck Allison.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/03/2021 17:50

Fantastic that she has achieved her goal.

Xanthangum · 12/03/2021 16:03

twitter.com/BluskyeAllison/status/1370398845033676806?s=20

Allison has closed her crowdfunder, and is encouraging people to support other Gc causes.

£150k, average donation £27.

This is amazing: "I received donations from the very wealthy to those in receipt of Universal Credit & from little girls donating their birthday money. "

andyoldlabour · 10/03/2021 10:52

There is definitely some very mixed up thinking involved here.

www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/600756/why_arent_lesbians_interested_in_transwomen/

andyoldlabour · 10/03/2021 10:43

30PercentRecycled

"I saw this disturbing graphic on Twitter today."

That is an amazing own goal. Any sane person looking at that graphic would be in total agreement with the women.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/03/2021 10:24

There’s something very male feeling about assuming sexual or romantic partners are selected by exclusions. Like you rule out all the women who are too tall/short/fat/thin/etc and what is left is your acceptable partner pool.

Yes, exactly.

ArcheryAnnie · 10/03/2021 10:19

Women can turn down sex any time they like, including in the middle of a date. Drawing a cartoon to outline all the reasons they are wrong to reject sex, and trying to bully and shame them for it, is some seriously rapey shit, right there.

Mulletsaremisunderstood · 10/03/2021 09:27

@30PercentRecycled

I saw this disturbing graphic on Twitter today.
All of their responses are simply stating their sexual preferences, which they are perfectly entitled to do....why the author of this thinks that is somehow abhorrent is beyond me.

Also, the author of this (I'm guessing a TW) states 'forgive me for assuming you'd be a decent human being'...eh, where is THEIR decency in pushing themselves on people who don't want them. Grrr, women have the right to decide who they are attracted to.

This seems to be just another male who is p!ssed off that women don't want him. Same old.

Impatiens · 10/03/2021 09:05

Nice of them to lay out their attack on Lesbians so clearly. If a woman expects to be told something significant about a prospective partner she's not a 'decent human being'? ffs.

30PercentRecycled · 10/03/2021 08:45

I saw this disturbing graphic on Twitter today.

Update from Allison Bailey
JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown · 10/03/2021 07:55

@nauticant

Workshops like that are conversion therapy. Will the proposed conversion therapy Bill target them too?
That's a good point. I would suggest using that workshop as an example of an issue when contacting our MPs when this bill is being debated. Extraordinary that Stonewall hired someone who was effectively running conversion therapy workshops. Shows how very far they have fallen.
nauticant · 10/03/2021 07:45

Workshops like that are conversion therapy. Will the proposed conversion therapy Bill target them too?

GemmeFatale · 10/03/2021 07:34

There’s something very male feeling about assuming sexual or romantic partners are selected by exclusions. Like you rule out all the women who are too tall/short/fat/thin/etc and what is left is your acceptable partner pool.

There’s no excluding people from something they’d otherwise be entitled to here, because no one is entitled to sex or a romantic relationship with me (or any other person). And I can choose who to invite into that intimate zone based on anything I like - including, but not limited to, what’s in their pants.

Datun · 08/03/2021 14:50

@UppityPuppity

Cotton ceiling. There is nothing wrong with asking people to reflect on preferences where they exclude a whole class of ppl”

There’s a word for that, but if I state it, I will get a strike on Mumsnet.

Women have every right to exclude any type of person that they wish - particularly when they are same sexed attracted.

And it's not a preference. It's a sexual orientation. Protected in law.

The very issue that stonewall was set up to advocate for.

RozWatching · 07/03/2021 17:52

It's just astonishing how many of the professional activists support the really offensive fringe stuff.

How can the Stonewall leadership tolerate things like the 'cotton ceiling' workshop? It's distasteful at best.
I'll be charitable and assume that when they gave MP that job, they weren't aware of the issues in those support groups Benji went to.

UppityPuppity · 07/03/2021 16:22

Cotton ceiling. There is nothing wrong with asking people to reflect on preferences where they exclude a whole class of ppl”

There’s a word for that, but if I state it, I will get a strike on Mumsnet.

Women have every right to exclude any type of person that they wish - particularly when they are same sexed attracted.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 07/03/2021 16:21

I think this youtu.be/QAMar22S0ck is the Benjamin Boyce podcast where that is discussed. If anyone hasn't heard it, it's definitely worth a listen

I remember those 2 interviews from when they were made available and the discussion - the oppression of the young people by mature adults was jaw-dropping. It was perfectly in line with Sheila Jeffrey's sex castes in which transmen end up at the lowest point of the caste system and, somehow, other people end up at the very top of the caste system in a way that is not readily distinguishable from business as usual.

ketosavedmylife · 07/03/2021 15:37

I think this youtu.be/QAMar22S0ck is the Benjamin Boyce podcast where that is discussed. If anyone hasn't heard it, it's definitely worth a listen

Remarkable to listen to, @JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown. Predators masquerading as women to get into our spaces and abuse us - happening right in front of our noses, and these predators are being protected and enabled by the establishment. Horrific.

Sophoclesthefox · 07/03/2021 14:28

That letter is astonishing.

I am so grateful that they’re thick and complacent enough to put it in writing.

The homophobia on the link in Datuns post upthread is really distressing Sad

Will have a rummage in my bank account for some compost later.