Ghislaine Maxwell

Sorry to disappoint you but that photo was first published a few years ago.

And there's no coded message in the Spacey videos. He's having a laugh because he doesn't think he's done anything wrong.

Agree Mrsjayy

They aren't looking at the camera. Is it possible they didn't know it was being taken? A still from a security camera perhaps?

Definitely been saved for the right time.

It explains why Kevin Spacey did those weird videos , some sort of coded message (apparently all 3 Spacey accusers have died). Also why Ghislaine's friend Laura has been doing the media rounds, msg to the Royals she won't squeal.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=JZveA-NAIDI
m.youtube.com/watch?v=WCuuKhjLB0Q

that photo is amazing.

oh my grammar in that last post!

Just in case anyone hasn't seen. It's almost as if there is some all powerful entity had been plotting a script.

I bet the. Photo was put in a safe place until the time was right. The corruption blows my mind

I would LOVE to know more about that photo.
Who took it?
Where has it been these past 18 years?
How did it fall into the hands of the Telegraph?

A photo has been released with GM and Kevin spacey sitting on thrones at Buckingham Palace all relaxed and laughing like Bffs apparently as guests of prince Andrew, the arrogance of it is astounding.

Of course the Clinton's noticed but probably saw it as a lifestyle like it was fine to have girls at parties.

It's more than an association with the Clintons.

Ghislaine was invited to their only child's wedding. I'm sure that most political donors don't get that kind of invite. The Clintons visited Epstein's ranch numerous times. Bill was on the 'Lolita express' numerous times and he may have visited Epstein's island. He spent a week with Epstein in Africa. If there were as many girls around as reported how could they not know what was going on? Even Trump said that Jeffrey 'likes them on the young side' so how could the Clintons not notice?

I don't think guilt by association is as effective against politicians as it is against others because people are aware that political campaigning requires shmoozing for money.

Trump also knows about this business so calling her nasty is pot kettle black.

Not that this is about trump vs Hillary. This is about what Hillary knew, which means what did Bill know, which means what exactly is going to be the outcome for Ghislaine who is so well in with the Clintons AND trump. I can’t see her ever facing full charges.

Why is it when a woman does a heinous crime it’s almost looked at as if she wasn’t in control of her actions.
Blame her father, blame her partner. Almost absolve her of any wrong doing.
“I know what she did was wrong but ...”

Epstein was a wealthy somewhat handsome bachelor who could have his pick of women, but he chose to abuse his power. He got a kick out of it, it wasn’t about sex but about the power of someone. The power that you can make anyone do anything whether they want to or not.

Maybe MG just got a kick out of it too. She’s just as bad as him.

If she knows about this business then 'nasty' is the correct word.

She said "They're racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic".

A politician is able to defend themselves against charges like this by giving examples of where they have, on the record, done the opposite. So examples of charity work, donations, speeches in support of gay rights, women’s rights, campaigns they have led, policy they have changed and so on.

What evidence of that sort can a woman use against a charge of being nasty? It’s is a subjective term. Any response made to a charge like that will only be met with further derision.

Back to the point about Trump being embroiled in the Epstein affair, the reason it is relevant to Ghislaine Maxwell is that she has been arrested in the US and did not flee to France where she could have had diplomatic protection. Why not flee to France unless she had sure protection on her side, and what could come higher than the president.

Why Hillary didn’t use such sensitive information about Trump, if she had it, is what puzzles me and it may mean if Bill is involved she did not what to involve him in case of further legal charges.

The election is gone. But their relationship and the crimes they may or may not have committed together remain and this is now something Ghislaine may use to her advantage. The question really is how deep is the rot.

To bring out, means to bring up

What does 'she can clearly bring out' mean?

I'm sure you do fully believe Trump is embroiled in the Epstein business but this isn't about Hillary vs Trump and who you support. The election is long gone. They are both embroiled and the Clintons appear to be embroiled more than Trump. Bill is taken to be a saint these days but he was a prolific womaniser. Bill was actually impeached because he lied about Monica Lewinsky. Both Bill and Hillary lied about Jennifer Flowers.

That's not to say that Bill has ever been involved with underage girls. He is very fond of money though.

Hillary should be 'towing' the line much more than Donald.

Hardly. I think Nasty Woman is a little more personal than what she said, given that she has evidence to back up every allegation against him. How does a woman defend herself publicly against a nasty woman charge, what evidence would be acceptable to the contrary? None.

Trump has shown his hand and thrown everything he had at her. She can clearly bring out should the mood take her. This is why I wonder why he went after her so vehemently, given that I believe he is fully embroiled in the Epstein business.

It's such a cliche but power corrupts. She wanted someone like her dad and acted like a pimp/madam for Epstein.

The truly depressing thing is the other properly powerful culprits will get away with it when this damaged individual is burned at the stake. Not defending her abuse, she's a lowlife but she's the tip of the iceberg controlled by powerful men.

How can PA possibly wriggle out of this now? He makes me sick.

I like this article better. It has an interview with Dr Dougie Howzer.

brownvalleyobserver.com/2020/02/04/top-doctors-suggest-giving-coronavirus-information-that-could-lead-to-hillary-clintons-arrest/

The Clintons appear to have strong ties with Epstein. Bill and Epstein were involved in the same kind of charity work and spent a week in Africa together. Ghislaine was at Chelsea Clinton's wedding.

By your logic, Hillary should be 'towing' the line much more than Donald.

brownvalleyobserver.com/2020/07/03/ghislaine-maxwell-has-tested-positive-for-covid-19-in-new-hampshire-jail-doj-reports/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

That was quick
One medically trained prison officer?! I think not.

When I say behaved better towards her, I mean less of the vitriol and personal name calling which might make a person with the right inside knowledge suddenly start making anonymous tip offs to the police.