Talk Radio right now talking JK Rowling!

Watched pretty much the whole thing - how fascinating. And what a lot of sense was being spoken, too, without a spokesperson like munroe bergdof or lilly madigan completely dominating proceedings and not letting anyone else speak....

Soooo interesting that no one from the other side of the argument phoned in, even to offer an alternative view.

I have to echo - WHO are the people leading this narrative? When obviously most people agree with JKR?

Sounds good, will listen later.

It’s not though, so many media people disagree with her. If it was just losers in basements then it wouldn’t be so worrying.

Exactly. And some men who spent their youths as basement-dwellers now have jobs in tech companies like Google and Twitter where they are able to influence what can and can't be said.

I don't listen to the radio but I'm thrilled to hear TalkRadio presenting a balanced debate on this, which actually respects people's concerns about self ID for once. I'm also gratified to see the LGB Alliance get a platform for once, and to hear the views of dissenting trans people amplified. It goes a long way towards fighting the impression that trans people in general don't care

You're going to need a bigger bottle.

For when you start dancing round the room.

I don't normally post on this board but have been listening and wanted to share my joy somewhere. That was so refreshing - coherent and open discussion at last!

I quite like Talk Radio. They have presenters from all political persuasions including quite far right - Farage has a slot for a while - and whilst I don't agree with a lot of them, it's good to hear the opposing view sometimes. There's also a lot of 'common sense. James O'Brien is good.

I’m going to have to listen to this later when the kids are in bed and there is quiet.

That was brilliant! I was jumping up and down during Marion's call - it sad so nice to hear women get views across without being attacked.

How dare people call JKR or women's groups like FWS hateful? That was just common sense.

If you want to hear the forbidden and heresies spoken aloud in a plain speaking way that isn't struggling to be heard in a howling storm of unreason this might be the show for you SerenityNowwwww.

Of course they won’t ring in as first they’d need to get dressed and brush their teeth. Then they’d need to arrange the baying mob they have behind them on all online debates. Then remember not to swear and find a coherent argument of which there is none.

So best to stick to Twitter.

Can I listen without blowing my blood pressure? I’ve had a lot on my plate recently and don’t want to be ripped completely!

Indeed, PirateWeasel, I would pay good money to listen to a squirming Radcliffe try to justify his sanctimonious, pompous condemnation of JKR to the presenter and guests on this show!

Where are Radcliffe, Watson, Lynch etc now? Seems they can dish it out on Twitter when they have the pitchfork-waving mob behind them, but enter into a rational and intellectual discussion on the air...? Not so much.

Missed that - off to listen.

I have discovered so many other radio stations beyond R4 since following this (lack of) debate. The just need to do a few more interesting documentaries and informative programmes and I will be cured.

It was Radio 4 that peaked me (at least one of the major peaks; it seems to be ongoing, still)

As one caller said, we are talking about 'people sitting in their pants in their basements'.

It’s not though, so many media people disagree with her. If it was just losers in basements then it wouldn’t be so worrying.

Fascinating that the rabid TRA activists can pile on people even people like JKR, but not a whisper on the radio!

[quote nauticant]ItsAllGoingToBeFine posted the link above. Here it is again with the link going to the exact time when the conversation started:

I just started listening too about 5 minutes ago. This is such an amazing presentation of the issue. Everyone interested should listen to this.

What coherent arguement could they muster? Other than, you're literally killing trans people!, We fucking SAID no debate!?
Radio isn't Twitter, where you can drop your hate filled one liner and run off to hide

I used to listen to Ian Collins when he did the late night slot on TalkSport, taking over from James Whale. He always talked a lot of sense and I’ve seen him on Twitter asking questions on this topic before.

Thanks so much for sharing this link. I’m listening now. Yes listen from the beginning, it’s brilliant. I’m twirling in the sunlight!

Thanks Talk radio, didn’t listen to you before but I’m a big fan now!