Have you seen the new Bodyform advert?

Me too. It's a properly "inclusive" advert.

Agree. The thing that annoys me about 'menstruators' and 'people with a cervix' is that they coyly pretend that periods and cervical cancer could happen to anyone and are completely unrelated.

Also, I’m happy to have ALL XX females included, even if they don’t identify as women.

Me too. It's a properly "inclusive" advert.

That was absolutely brilliant

Fair point Lillian, could be that too.

In a way it's good that it could be either, shows how some "trans" experiences of being female overlap with other females.

@Highperbolay thank you.

Actually, I go back to my other comment, about not actually caring if it’s a female bodied person who identifies as trans. If they are, that’s fine, as they’re obviously confident enough to recognise the reality of their sex, while having their belief in what gender they are identifying as. Just like many of the male bodied people who identify as trans, who recognise they are of the male sex, who occasionally post in support of women.

I thought it was wonderful.

I'm surprised so many people are saying they have never dripped blood onto the floor. It happens to me relatively often in a use loo, wipe, stand-up, turn on shower, undress, wait for shower to get warm, drip on floor way. I consider it a success if I miss the bathmat with it and can just wipe it up.

There is a transman in the film. That's fine. It's showing all types of women, even the ones who don't want to be. It was just a second, which is a proportionate amount of time given how few of them there are.

It does show the dark and difficult (and amazing) aspects of being a woman, but I think that's powerful: look how capable women are at dealing with normal life while also dealing with all of this, quietly and discreetly too. Women are phenomenal.

Ive gone back to look for the trans man. Is it in the very split second bit? I think I saw a woman with mastectomy scars - is that the one you meant?

Yes, it's in the split second bit. I don't think they are mastectomy scars as mastectomies for breast cancer usually remove the nipple as well, and they don't look like cancer mastectomy scars. Plus there is a lot of hair on the body. Its a trans man. Which I have no problem with because trans men are female.

Ive gone back to look for the trans man. Is it in the very split second bit? I think I saw a woman with mastectomy scars - is that the one you meant?

That's a particular type of internalised woman hating to believe that by erasing the word woman you suddenly become 'inclusive'. I'm always saddened to see young women being so clueless about the roots of patriarchy, misogyny and discrimination that they buy into this male dominated behaviour.

I completely agree, but I think the average person reading a copy of Metro on the tube sees through it.

I loved the advert too! I showed it to my partner and mentioned the positive response it's been getting from women -- and how we're used to rolling our eyes at the 'magical blue liquid' or the rollerblading in white hotpants (my personal favourite was one where a careefree young woman in a flimsy white playsuit leaps onto her girl friend's back during a night out... Like, yeah of course... I shudder to imagine what would happen if I did that on a regular flow day!)

We ended up having a really nice discussion about how a lot of women's reproductive health issues have been (and in some cases are still) quite taboo, something he had never really realized. He suggested that maybe people don't talk about miscarriages that much because they aren't so common, and was pretty surprised when I showed him the NHS page saying that they affect at least 1/8 pregnancies.

@Theld - the wadded loo roll is for sure universal! I would add being paranoid and asking a friend to drop back when out in public to carry out an emergency 'leak check' -- the only time I ask someone to please check out my bum! :)

Honestly, I’m as GC as you will find, but I’m alright with a female bodied person who identifies as trans, in the advert, as the fact that they are barely noticed, shows that they obviously haven’t been centred, as so many are, in women’s issues. It’s still a strong female centred advert that doesn’t fanny about catering to the woke brigade.

I agree. I thought it was fine too.

Best song ever! I’d LOVE to see an advert for period products featuring the Vagina Anthem but I doubt it will ever happen.

That would be wonderful!

Wow I loved it. So powerful and for me a spot on representation of my experiences:
Flooding
Excruciating pain that sweeps my legs from under me.
Heartbreaking miscarriages
Hysteroscopy for odd symptoms
Choosing old pants
Flooding at the most inopportune moments

I loved the little girl nurturing the womb, the passionate scenes, the music, bittersweet humour.

I would have no issue watching it complete with sex scenes with my teens and tweens- but I assume that it can't be shown on TV due to this element which is a huge shame?

Loved it too
And might have something in my eye now..

I loved that the Dr is female
I loved the imagery of the little gardener in the womb

I have had
miscarriages
Leaking
Pain
Dripping on bathroom floor
Felt overjoyed to not be pregnant
Felt overjoyed to be pregnant
Writhed about in pain on bathroom floors

They should have had some wadded up loo roll at some point though. I bet that's am almost universal female experience.

Yes, the shagging was unnecessary in such a powerful advert. I wanted to watch it with my 12 yo.

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I really liked it but surely it’s not going to be available for children to watch with the obvious shagging? 🤔

Yes, I'm not sure why a trans man would be an part of it except in a "and of course, men have uteruses (uteri?) too!" shoehorn.

[quote Ereshkigalangcleg]I loved the refrain in the song "who made you?" Every damn person on this planet including the misogynists, the ridiculous TWAW wokesters and the gay couples who think they have the right to buy a surrogate child owes their very existence to a woman with a womb.

Yes it reminded me a bit of this! [/quote]
Best song ever! I’d LOVE to see an advert for period products featuring the Vagina Anthem but I doubt it will ever happen.

Just amazing. As a woman, mum and teacher this could be a game changer. I cried a bit too.

There have to be hardly any transmen who want to be part of an advert that was so relentlessly about female biology. Surely it's the opposite to how they want to be.