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Just "came out" (as GC) to two friends...

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bluechameleon · 01/07/2020 23:37

I didn't bring the subject up but when it did come up I went with it. Neither were particularly well informed on the subject but both seemed receptive to the GC POV. I was slightly concerned about Friend1 (gay male) but he was pretty supportive. They did comment on how much I knew about it so I think they thought I was slightly weird, but I feel generally it was positive and I did some good work furthering the cause. Are you all "out" to your friends?

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WitsEnding · 02/07/2020 08:49

Yes. I have a friend who is also GC and we barely admit it to each other, in part for fear of getting kicked out of the Labour Party.

Have no problem with people dressing and acting however they wish, but biology trumps gender and safe spaces are only safe when they are defensible.

TheShoesa · 02/07/2020 08:49

purpleboy

I agree that most people are still unaware of the issue, although I think it is getting out there abit more now. IME it has to be drip fed or becomes overwhelming. There is just SO MUCH to unravel. Once my eyes were opened I started to see the blatant discrimination everywhere.

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TheShoesa · 02/07/2020 08:41

Didn't explain that very well!

Gender is what makes girls who like 'boy' things and boys who like 'girl' things be made to feel that they are doing something wrong. And sadly often viewed by others as if they are doing something wrong. That is why I am gender critical.

Be the man who wears make up, the woman who rejects femininity. Gender stereotypes are harmful all round IMHO. Your sex is still the same however you want the world to see you.

teawamutu · 02/07/2020 08:39

@FedUpAtHomeTroels

I floated the idea at work and was suprised how many women I work with are also GC without really knowing or labeling it.
Yep. "Oooh, are you a TERF too?" In tones of suppressed glee.
FedUpAtHomeTroels · 02/07/2020 08:38

I floated the idea at work and was suprised how many women I work with are also GC without really knowing or labeling it.

TheShoesa · 02/07/2020 08:33

GC = Gender Critical.

Gender being your internal sense of which stereotypes based on sex you feel more comfortable following.

For me, it also means accepting that boiology can't be changed - biology trumps gender.

purpleboy · 02/07/2020 08:33

I don't think it's mainstream enough, I had no idea about any of this until a few months ago. No one in my circle know anything about it, I've started talking to them and they all appear to agree but with not much interest.
JKR has shone a sort of spotlight on it but still many people take it at face value without wanting to actually look deeper into it.

MingeofDeath · 02/07/2020 08:31

GC = gender critical.

purpleboy · 02/07/2020 08:30

What does GC mean?

Gender critical

BaronessBrighterThanYou · 02/07/2020 08:23

I am sure that people thought I was a bit obsessed and making things up at the start, but as more and more comes to light I think they are getting it.

I could have written that. People like my own daughter who thought I had suddenly turned into an unfeeling monster have slowly realised for themselves. I think they were ruthlessly manipulated. Intelligent people will get it but it sometimes takes a bit of time. That's my experience.

Stackawacka · 02/07/2020 08:21

What does GC mean?

SparkyBlue · 02/07/2020 08:19

Had a great chat about this with a friend and her 14 year old daughter the other day. It was great to chat to people who feel the same. She had started chatting to her daughter due to issues that have come up at school.

hellotoday27 · 02/07/2020 08:13

You're right about the tin foil hat bit. I feel embarrassed about knowing so much.

teawamutu · 02/07/2020 08:10

You do tend to feel a bit tinfoil-hat when you talk to people who don't know anything, I find.

Push on through Grin

MsTSwift · 02/07/2020 08:07

Came up naturally with my uni friends (all turned out to be GC) last weekend JKR came up in conversation with my local friends all GC too. Turns out adults I know just don’t believe you can change sex. In both groups there are some medic / science types. Was quite relieved.

TheShoesa · 02/07/2020 08:04

Not seent this before, Joss Prior's response.

Weirdly I feel a bit sorry for Joss having watched it

TheShoesa · 02/07/2020 07:35

I started mentioning this IRL after Posie's epic rant was posted on here and when the GRA consultation was live, that was an easy conversation opener.

I did have a tendency to rant and shoehorn too much in at once, but now I have reined that in and just drop little bits in here and there when I can.

I am sure that people thought I was a bit obsessed and making things up at the start, but as more and more comes to light I think they are getting it. What is frustrating to me is the defeatest attitude of some people - mothers of girls no less - who say there's nothing we can do about it!

donquixotedelamancha · 02/07/2020 06:56

Well done blue. I'm pretty open IRL and have only met two people who don't get it. The vast bulk of the population know that sex is real.

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