Irish Minister for children appears to be mates with Peter Tatchell

Aerialview yes, our mainstream media is pretty useless. It's the "sometimes a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day" syndrome - in the UK, Nick Griffin and the BNP were talking about grooming gangs years before the scandal got into the mainstream press. It's unfortunate.

I think this is the book - it's called The Boy.

That's the one

I have not seen the book but am concerned about Greer's comments about it

some links:

"Her upcoming glossy book, The Boy, full of pictures of "ravishing" pre-adult boys with hairless chests, wide-apart legs and slim waists, is an "art book", Greer, 64, told this newspaper last week.

She wouldn't say exactly how young the "boys" are in her book but has cheerily admitted it will "get me into a lot of trouble" and expects she will be called a pedophile.

"I know that the only people who are supposed to like looking at pictures of boys are a subgroup of gay men," she wrote last year in London's Daily Telegraph. "Well, I'd like to reclaim for women the right to appreciate the short-lived beauty of boys, real boys, not simpering 30-year-olds with shaved chests."

Asked on Canadian television what attracted her to "boys" rather than men, she said: "Sperm that runs like tap water will do.""

www.smh.com.au/opinion/generation-of-taboo-breakers-are-a-selfish-lot-20030710-gdh2m3.html

also relevant

www.smh.com.au/entertainment/books/im-not-germaines-toy-says-cover-boy-20031018-gdhlyf.html

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/save/ianpace.wordpress.com/2014/06/27/germaine-greers-apologia-for-child-abuse/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/save/ianpace.wordpress.com/2014/06/27/germaine-greers-apologia-for-child-abuse/

PT's views were pretty well known when PIE was set up, which I think was in the 1980s.

The photo of the new Minister and Tatchell is from June 2018 and this article in the Sun about Tatchell is from Nov 2018. Were Tatchell’s views widely know before Nov 2018?

www.thesun.co.uk/news/7706940/gay-rights-activist-children-sex-note/

@irishfeminist I don't endorse their views, never heard of them before. I did a Google search on O' Gorman's link to Tatchell and their article is the only one that came up. Which says something about our media, don't you think?

www.amazon.co.uk/Boy-Dr-Germaine-Greer/dp/050023809X/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+boy+germaine+greer&tag=mumsnetforu03-21&qid=1593597722&sr=8-1

Aerialview I don't know how much by way of "guts" it takes as they aren't mainstream and face neither praise nor sanction for mentioning it. They're the Irish equivalent of Stormfront. Most posters on that site have horrible views on women and gay people and are deeply racist. The Peter Tatchell link is worth attention but linking to politicalirish is not really the place to be promoting by posting a link to them.

Germaine Greer, for example, has expressed views and even published a book that endorses paedophillia. Most feminists seem unaware of this.

Please would you link to the title of the book? TIA.

”The positive nature of some child-adult sexual relationships is not confined to non-Western cultures. Several of my friends - gay and straight, male and female - had sex with adults from the ages of nine to 13. None feel they were abused. All say it was their conscious choice and gave them great joy. While it may be impossible to condone paedophilia, it is time society acknowledged the truth that not all sex involving children is unwanted, abusive and harmful.”

Peter Tatchell, letter to Guardian, 1997.

@irishfeminist At least they have the guts to highlight it - do you see any newspapers mentioning it??

[quote OldCrone]PT thinks that a child of 12 having sex with men isn't being abused if the child enjoys it.

www.petertatchell.net/lgbt_rights/age_of_consent/im-14-im-gay-i-want-a-boyfriend/[/quote]
I feel nauseous reading that. How is this man still an MP.?And why does Roderic O"Gorman still have that tweet up? He has had 2 years to take it down. Taking it down now would be a CYA move.

PT thinks that a child of 12 having sex with men isn't being abused if the child enjoys it.

www.petertatchell.net/lgbt_rights/age_of_consent/im-14-im-gay-i-want-a-boyfriend/

Thanks. Looking at that tweet I can only imagine he wasn't aware. Still it is not a good look for a Minister for Children.

PT has advocated lowering the age of consent and written of 9 year olds having enjoyable relationships with adults. These were not secret or rumoured views of PT.

While PT has been involved in all kinds of disturbing activism most people are unaware of this.

I was very aware of the attempted infiltration of the LGB rights movement by the PIE but was, for many years, unaware of PT's involvement, largely I think because of my involvement with AIDS activism in which PT was a prominent figure (ACTUP IMMIC)

Also at that time the age of consent for gay men was 21 and for heterosexuals was 16. Many decent people campaigned to lower the age of consent for gay males but were also opposed to paedophiles.

Germaine Greer, for example, has expressed views and even published a book that endorses paedophillia. Most feminists seem unaware of this.

While it is important to identify paedophile networks and prevent their infiltration of statutory bodies and activist groups we have to be extremely careful not to shame people for not knowing everything about everyone they associate with or whose books they read.

PT is on BBC frequently.

Ugh, I wouldn't be linking anything from politicalirish, they are a really unpleasant racist homophobic site.

Still, it's concerning and worth a letter to your TD and local Green Party reps. I have no idea what credentials Roderic O'Gorman has to be minister for children, but then a ragbag "Ministry for Children, Disability, Equality and Integration" doesn't sound like it places great importance on any of these totally disparate things.

I stand corrected - it was 9 yr kids - I was mixing up with the 6yr old sex being promoted in the recommended reading by Asda for 11+ in their home learning packs. These have now been updated and the ceo of Asda is hopefully investigating, having apologised that the packs for younger kids also contained a promotional slogan used by PIE previously.

www.politicalirish.com/threads/new-minister-for-children-roderic-ogorman-at-dublin-pride-2018-with-controversial-author-peter-tatchell.36355/

Try googling his name with PIE - he’s rather a fan of ideas about sex with very young people and published a shocking interview with an obviously very damaged young person describing their sexual abuse as a six year old as an argument for sex with young people. He’s been very open about it. Hope we don’t see any further adverse developments in the laws in Ireland.

Safe schools alliance on PT.

safeschoolsallianceuk.net/2020/02/11/safe-schools-alliance-uk-response-to-peter-tatchell-interview-on-rt/

In the past he has promoted paedophilia. Said that 9 year olds were capable of enjoying sexual relationships with adults.

spotlightonabuse.wordpress.com/2014/03/25/peter-tatchell-and-dares-to-speak/

ianpace.wordpress.com/tag/peter-tatchell/

Not all wiped, thank god