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Please tell me about JK Rowling

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Feathered · 30/06/2020 12:18

There's a lot of very pro JK Rowling sentiment here.
My children - especially my son - is very anti . . . and says what she has done is horrendous.
Please can someone help and explain the reason for her being so defended on here?
Thanks!

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ThePurported · 30/06/2020 15:02

"Please can someone help and explain the reason for her being so defended on here?"

Tbh I read that as yet another poster who doesn't have a clue about what is going on and automatically assumes that their kids know more than any woman could Grin

But yes Lamahaha the language thing is interesting, it reminded me of 'literal violence'. And it has that unpleasant look what you have done narc vibe.

Dyrne · 30/06/2020 14:39

@FannyCann

To be fair I still haven’t forgiven her for telling us all that Wizards used to just shit themselves before indoor plumbing was invented

Whaaatt???

But the Basilisk was in the plumbing at Hogwarts and there was a Room of Requirement should a wizard get caught short.

Yeah I don’t really know where she was going with it. Could have had them using a long drop like the muggles did and vanishing that away but nope, it seemed pretty important for her to specify that wizards literally just stood there and shat themselves.
Coyoacan · 30/06/2020 14:33

I love you lot. Nobody has to explain JK Rowling as she explains herself perfectly.

Z0rr0 · 30/06/2020 14:28

YES @Lamahaha!!
Still trying to fathom how one person's opinions somehow invalidate another person's entire existence / identity.

andyoldlabour · 30/06/2020 14:19

I was hoping to ask the OP how old her DS is, but I suspect we will not be hearing anything more from the OP.

Lamahaha · 30/06/2020 14:17

To me it's interesting that "what Rowling wrote" or "what Rowling said" or "what Rowling tweeted" has been converted to "what Rowling has done".

The very "done" to me implies, you know, some kind of action. I can sit on a chair all day and write "horrendous" things on my laptop, but I still haven't "done" anything. I haven't maimed or whipped or torutured or killed anyone. I would use the word "horrendous" for perhaps some horrible Nazi criminal or, you know, an actual rapist and/or murderous. Not somebody who wrote or said something, no matter how ugly their words.
As far as I know Rowling "did" nothing more than sit at her computer ans write something that people objected to. Why does this these days count as "doing something horrendous"?

I'm sorry for the off-topic reflections, but I am interested in words and their usage and to me it is fascinating how, in these days writing words counts as actual actions. Is it because we, and especially the younger generation, have become so bound to our devices?

It's really quite sad. I wish people would get out and actually "do" more things; though of course in times of Covid it's not easy.

FannyCann · 30/06/2020 14:14

To be fair I still haven’t forgiven her for telling us all that Wizards used to just shit themselves before indoor plumbing was invented

Whaaatt???

But the Basilisk was in the plumbing at Hogwarts and there was a Room of Requirement should a wizard get caught short.

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Datun · 30/06/2020 13:49

Advanced search makes me think the OP is probably not a TRA or a GF.

But I sincerely hope that they show the tweets reacting to J. K. Rowling saying sex is real, to their son.

And just think for one single minute, that these are the men clamouring to get into women and girls toilets and changing rooms.

These are the men demanding that women as a sex class have no voice. These are the men refusing to allow boundaries for women that men do not have a right to breach.

If the OP's son is fine with that, then I think that tells her all she needs to know.

Dyrne · 30/06/2020 13:46

To be fair I still haven’t forgiven her for telling us all that Wizards used to just shit themselves before indoor plumbing was invented.

titchy · 30/06/2020 13:37

Maybe it was releasing the Deathly Hallows as two books? 🤷‍♀️

annabel85 · 30/06/2020 13:34

@Feathered

There's a lot of very pro JK Rowling sentiment here. My children - especially my son - is very anti . . . and says what she has done is horrendous. Please can someone help and explain the reason for her being so defended on here? Thanks!
The 5000 threads about it aren't enough?
BaronessBrighterThanYou · 30/06/2020 13:33

Plopper then?

I agree with the poster that said theOP's wording was weird.

agentnully · 30/06/2020 13:32

Find out exactly why he's formed this opinion then give him her essay. I suspect Twitter and ill-informed friends.

If he won't read it maybe you should have a talk with your children together about how grown women feel about having their rights erased and how maybe they should not form opinions based on incorrect and damaging Twitter rants.

It's not just about JKR, it's about how easy it is to bully and even get into serious trouble at the press of a button without meaning to.

Your kids won't thank you for your interference now but they may do when they're older and wiser.

Datun · 30/06/2020 13:27

Here are the screenshots of her tweets and the reaction to them. A company was calling women 'people who menstruate', which is all on a par with cervix havers, birthing people and chest feeders. Offensive and utterly erasing women as a biological and political sex class. She gently poked a bit of fun at the term. (Instead of being openly outraged like most women.)

medium.com/@rebeccarc/j-k-rowling-and-the-trans-activists-a-story-in-screenshots-78e01dca68d

Because of the disgusting onslaught of abuse she received as a result, a few days later she explained in an essay about her own sexual assault and domestic abuse why women as a sex class need to have a name, and should not be subdivided into menstruators, or people who have been raped, people who are subjected to FGM, people who wrote about #MeToo, etc.

www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/

leli · 30/06/2020 13:27

OP seems to have disappeared!

Apileofballyhoo · 30/06/2020 13:24

Maybe he's upset about Sirius.

Eveta · 30/06/2020 13:24

My children - especially my son - is very anti . . . and says what she has done is horrendous

Jk voiced her concern for women's rights and safeguarding, talked about her own experience with male violence, financially supports a charity that supports the women who are victims of male violence, whilst also saying she supports and cares for trans people, but that their needs cannot undermine the existing legal protections for women and safeguards for children. What exactly is it she has done that is horrendous? I really want to know the answer to this because I'm not seeing it.

RoyalCorgi · 30/06/2020 13:23

She is a goddess among women. HTH.

Messageinateacup · 30/06/2020 13:23

I thought he meant when she killed off Dumbledore?

TheShoesa · 30/06/2020 13:20

What is it that she has done that your son thinks is so horrendous?

BovaryX · 30/06/2020 13:18

says what she has done is horrendous

What an absurd statement. JKR hasn't done anything remotely horrendous. A belief in biological sex isn't 'horrendous.' It was totally uncontroversial until about five minutes ago.

nauticant · 30/06/2020 13:17

It is amusing that us supporters, having seen the horrible threats including threats of sexual violence JKR has received, will instead throw her to the wolves because a poster's DS would view us as being very mean.

RaveOnThisCrazyFeeling · 30/06/2020 13:15

^^ When I say "JK said..." I don't mean in so many words. She said it best, but I'm just paraphrasing.

Datun · 30/06/2020 13:15

Bloody hell, if one more person says how awful J. K. Rowling is because 'my mate/spouse/kid told me.

Just read what she bloody wrote. Five minutes out of your life.

She said sex is real. And when she got the most disgusting verbal abuse and rape threats (completely proving her point), she explained why.

Whilst simultaneously defending trans people, their rights and their identity.

In a very calm, very nuanced and wholly rational way.

If anyone, anywhere, can criticise anything she's actually bloody said, it will be the first time ever.

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