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Why r/GenderCritical was banned by Reddit

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MadBadDaddy · 29/06/2020 23:38

Hi! TRA here! Thought I'd take a quick breather from all the crowing, high-fiving, etc. to throw a lifeline to any actual open-minded critical thinkers wondering why Reddit banned r/gendercritical. Basically, you have 2 options when it comes to what to believe:

  1. It's a true conspiracy: silicon valley, hollywood & the media are in the thrall of the well-funded TransAgenda, the need for woke points, child-groomers, women-haters, MRAs, etc. etc.
  1. r/GenderCritical was hateful - if you want evidence then go to r/GenderCynical which existed to harvest said hatefulness. Read their strictly enforced rules about hate speech, misogyny, anti-feminism, pile-ons, doxxing, etc. (NB: abbreviating "trans exclusionary radical feminist" is not considered hate speech on this subreddit) and then sort their posts by "top" and "all time" and judge for yourself.

The trans men, trans women and non-binary people of Reddit do not hate women and do not tolerate abuse. Have a better day. x

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LemonadeAndDaisyChains · 05/07/2020 02:15

Even starred out, aren't supposed to use the c word on here as it's not liked.
I don't like it either so why use it

HeistSociety · 05/07/2020 02:10

I can't ever imagine turning up in trans spaces to c*splain anything. I'm not that rude, nor that self-centred.

FantaOra · 05/07/2020 02:03

You are on a feminist chat board spluttering out this....

Why do all women hate poor people?

You have well and truly lost the plot.

Good bye.

womanaf · 05/07/2020 02:02

Can you imagine turning up on Lipstick Alley and announcing ‘white woman here’ then talking about yourself?

Zinco · 05/07/2020 02:01

Presumably, keeping to the biological distinction between men and women, would be an equally "cost effective solution" as saying that TWAW?

Anyway, in these days when we worry so much about these things, people may be willing to pay for some extra space.

MadBadDaddy · 05/07/2020 02:00

FantaOra
It was that or politely suggest you actually read more than one line of what I posted and ask how did you even see that one line as a 'justification'? I guess I never knew #beancounterisaslur

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LemonadeAndDaisyChains · 05/07/2020 01:50

For generations 'girl' has been the default insult men use on other men
Cry like a girl Throw like a girl

Can agree with that, "you throw like a girl or cry like a girl" pretty bloody you what?! How am I supposed to throw as a woman Hmm

But denigrating girls is all about trans

Didn't say that.
Just what has the fact someone has a few gay friends who thinks effeminate gay men are girls got to do with anything?
If your gay friends think effeminate men are girls, how does that tell you everything you have to know about transgender?
Was a genuine question.

HeistSociety · 05/07/2020 01:50

No.

I'm sorry for you that your idea of fun is bitching at women.

MadBadDaddy · 05/07/2020 01:46

HeistSociety
Oh god you're not an accountant too, are you?

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FantaOra · 05/07/2020 01:44

Touched a nerve there daddy? You have to resort to more generalisations to stick the boot in. I was at Grenfell earlier this year when all your "identity" teenage poseotroopers let off smoke bombs

WineAndHobnobs · 05/07/2020 01:38

See, I don't have an issue with gay men calling each other 'girls'. Because they're gay men and I don't perceive them as a threat. They don't want to have sex with me and they don't want access to my safe spaces.

Similarly, older 'trannies' (as they used to be called). Again, gay men (usually), happy to use their own male facilities, not threatening me, wanting to have sex with me or seeking access to my safe spaces.

The new TRA's on the other hand are extremely threatening. There have been MANY reports that they are coercing lesbians into having sex with them. They are threatening people who disagree with them with sexual violence and they are demanding access to my safe spaces.

No. Just fucking NO.

TehBewilderness · 05/07/2020 01:31

For generations 'girl' has been the default insult men use on other men.
Cry like a girl.
Throw like a girl.
But denigrating girls is all about trans. Cool story, bro.

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HeistSociety · 05/07/2020 01:27

OP, can you please take your aggression away from this space?

You've had the opportunity to gloat about censorship of women, you've more than had your chance to explain how hurtful you personally found GC.

If you have feminist interests ie areas in which you centre women's needs and rights, please feel free to post on those topics.

Otherwise, to play by your own rules that Hurt Feelings Matter, your aggression is making me uncomfortable in what is explicitly feminist space.

I mean, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

LemonadeAndDaisyChains · 05/07/2020 01:22

When my gay male friends sneeringly call effeminate gay men "girls" they are telling me everything they believe about "transgender"

So you have a few gay male friends. They sneer at effiminate gay men and call them girls, that tells you everything you need to know about what they believe trans to be (crystal ball, mind reading powers?) and you post saying from that that shows you trans?
Was a genuine question what has the fact your gay friend's opinion got to do with anything, what has that got to do with being trans?

MadBadDaddy · 05/07/2020 01:18

@FantaOra

Whatever else it might or might not be "TWAW" is society's cost-effective solution. You might win an argument, but you'll never beat the bean-counters.

And this for fucks sake. I don't think I have ever seen such a trite justification for the overriding of female consent and boundaries in writing. Too expensive eh?

What you might struggle with here is that outside of construction there is majority of females in accounting. So that nasty throw away bean counter remark on a feminist chat board is a bit of a red rag.

It was the bean-counters that paid for the fire-cladding for Grenfell, and took the sprinklers away, and de-skilled the safety inspectors. Why do all women hate poor people?

You could pull a muscle, reaching like that.

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LemonadeAndDaisyChains · 05/07/2020 01:15

Erm, there was no explanation with what I quoted?
So why the patronising deary me?
Was a genuine question.
If you don't have an answer or don't know yourself, then fair enough.

FantaOra · 05/07/2020 01:11

Deary me Lemonade, it's written in plain English.

LemonadeAndDaisyChains · 05/07/2020 01:02

When my gay male friends sneeringly call effeminate gay men "girls" they are telling me everything they believe about "transgender"

Eh? How?
Genuine question bit confused by that with no explanation
I'm straight and not trans either, but how does being gay have anything to do with being trans?
They're two separate things surely.
Men can be men, women can be women and sexuality has no bearing on being trans at all as far as I know.

postingintotheabyss · 05/07/2020 00:59

@MadBadDaddy

postingintotheabyss You're right, in hindsight it was probably not the best time or place for levity. Twitter trolls don't seem to come to Reddit though, which was the point which lead to my comment. If it makes you feel any better, I was called an incestuous child molester several times in several different ways by some GC Twitter troll after I'd mentioned I had a daughter. Would you like a screenshot? Feel free to trivialise that.
Oh, it was levity.

That’s okay then. Perfectly fine to barge into a forum - where women have explained how sickened and scared they are at the hideous sexualised threats they’re subjected to online, just for trying to stand up for their rights - and to make a cheap joke about being, what? disappointed? envious? that men aren’t sending those messages to you?

Levity, eh? Ha.

Just a sorry, was all I was after.

And no, hearing about your experience doesn’t make me feel better - what a bizarre thing to say. But I wouldn’t dream of trivialising it - that’s just not in my nature, see.

FantaOra · 05/07/2020 00:54

Whatever else it might or might not be "TWAW" is society's cost-effective solution. You might win an argument, but you'll never beat the bean-counters.

And this for fucks sake. I don't think I have ever seen such a trite justification for the overriding of female consent and boundaries in writing. Too expensive eh?

What you might struggle with here is that outside of construction there is majority of females in accounting. So that nasty throw away bean counter remark on a feminist chat board is a bit of a red rag.

LemonadeAndDaisyChains · 05/07/2020 00:53

Generalising individuals is what got us here in the first place

Very true, all just people and generalising/lumping together isn't good

ItsLateHumpty · 05/07/2020 00:45

ErrolTheDragon

Oh, that’s fab

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/petitions_noticeboard/3752551-Petition-for-third-spaces-Fionne-Miranda

Thread started by a transwoman to highlight a petition created by two other transwomen for third spaces. I will sign. Thanks for highlighting here.

HeistSociety · 05/07/2020 00:43

Whatever the ''kiss' is, OP, please don't do it.
It gives me the cognitive dissonance creeps.

HeistSociety · 05/07/2020 00:42

Deleting comments about shitty male socialisation might salve the feelings of a person characterised thus, but it doesn't make my perception of said maleness any less true.

I understand it would be enraging for a woman to simply not see you as you see yourself.

Perhaps the OP could take it on board as a type of helpful correction - to appear less male to women, spend more time thinking about your own words and behaviour, and less time policing women.