Why r/GenderCritical was banned by Reddit

Lemonade - where did they say that?

I said happy to be corrected, and I am - thought I'd read it one of the posts somewhere.

I read GC for years. It was not hateful. It was FEMALE.

Interesting to me that you don't accept the testimony of women who actually read the site.

I just can't align myself with gate keeping feminists, saying what is and isn't so called womanly or what we should be doing or thinking.

Where to start unpacking this...

Ok - "so called womanly" the whole nexus of radical feminism is that this idea of what women should think or adhere to a specific aesthetic is null.

Womanhood is about biology and you can't identify out of it.

"Gate keeping feminists" - well yes. Feminism is absolutely about gatekeeping women's rights.

It's the foundation it's built on.

Any "form" of "feminism" that's happy to play the Trojan Horse and let men in through the gate is simply anti- feminist.

seeing as OP was the moderator on Reddit

Lemonade - where did they say that?

"Neither I nor anyone else can 'prove' that I'm trans, or not, but I know that I am."

No one here is denying you are trans.

We are denying that being trans makes you the opposite sex.

But you are happy to align yourself with male-bodied people saying exactly that

Nothing to do with aligning myself with male bodied or female bodied people.
I take people at face value.
If I agree with what they're saying, I'm agreeing with them for their words not what they have in their pants.

The OP was invited more than once to cease lying about GC, and instead contribute to discussion on a feminist issue that interests them.

I don't get that though - the OP started this thread as there was discussion on here over Reddit GC being banned - seeing as OP was the moderator on Reddit (someone correct me if I'm wrong, moderator probably the wrong word?!) they came here to explain why.
I've never been over to Reddit GC, so haven't seen for myself but I know the stuff I see here that allows differing opinions, and some of those are a bit
If GC Reddit only had one voice and chased away others that believed TWAW, (again, correct me if I'm wrong) but I can see why it's gone if so.
Some views tip into hateful and if there was no opposing views and just affirming/backslapping each other for hate, yeah, how is that good?
Again, if that's not what it was like then fair enough but if it was I can see why.

Doesn't mean I'm any less than you just because my stance isn't radical

No one is saying you are “any less”.

I just can't align myself with gate keeping feminists, saying what is and isn't so called womanly or what we should be doing or thinking.

But you are happy to align yourself with male-bodied people saying exactly that.

In any case, I was referring to the OP, and not to you.

Nah, I think anti- feminists don't belong in feminist chat

I'm not anti feminist.
I believe in women being able to think for themselves, I believe we are able and capable of making our own choices, having our own thoughts, and not having to blame every little thing we do on the patriarchy or have any wrongdoing explained away because woman.
I believe in freedom of choice, the ability to be able to think for ourselves, know what we like, without others telling us what to do or think, whether that others is men or other women.
Before someone parrots "choice isn't made in a vacuum" - maybe not, but I know women are capable of independent thought and it doesn't mean they've been brainwashed.
I just can't align myself with gate keeping feminists, saying what is and isn't so called womanly or what we should be doing or thinking.
Doesn't mean I'm any less than you just because my stance isn't radical.

I’ve just revisited the trans widows threads and the threads on agp. They provide a useful lens to read some people’s posts on this board and others.

HeistSociety

I note that your dissenting opinion is not so welcome as others, eh?

Piss off?!
It's usually
"We want a discussion"
"We're all ears"
We do like to not be in an echo chamber, what gives you that impression that we are an echo chamber?
Piss off?!
Wow.
Good job I'm stubborn and feel like sticking my tongue out and saying "shan't" for having a different opinion isn't it.
Discussion is welcome here!
Aye. Rightio showed up what it's really like for dissenting voices, good job.

It's gross that other women think a joke about sexual assault is funny

I've never said a joke about sexual assault is funny. If that's aimed at me.
I never even referenced that.
All I said was I can get self deprecating humour, that's kind of my style along with a side dose of sarcasm.
and the feeling of needing to pre-empt by saying TRA here before anyone else jumps in with the insults.

I agree it is a mistake to assume the anti-feminists and other misogynists on the site are necessarily TRAs.

So far as I am aware, my deleted post did not break any of the known rules. Did not call anyone a man

You certainly just did in your post just then though, so maybe that's why it was deleted if you can't see when you're actually doing it?

My post didn't break guidelines.

Yes, maybe the OP is a female doing a grand job of toxic maleness. Perhaps the privilege is trans vs woman.

It's gross that other women think a joke about sexual assault is funny.

MN felt inclined to censor women's posts, while leaving up the posts of OP

This is just such bull though, sorry.
How does anyone on here have any clue whether people are male or female?
Both men and women post on MN.
If a post breaks talk guidelines, is inciting, personal attacks, or transphobic or whatever, it'd get reported and it'd go if it broke the guidelines for
It's not a "I'm a woman, you're picking on women!" that's just such a strange way of looking at it.
As no-one would have a clue if you were a woman or not on an anonymous forum.
They'd just be going by the words they're seeing in front of them.

Didn’t think I’d have much interest in this particular subject, having none in reddit, but I’m glad I actually rtft. For the most part I’m a free speech absolutist (perhaps my American heritage, though a UK resident), so whatever r/GenderCritical was like, I certainly can’t agree with it being shut down.

I’m kind of late to the trans discussion, but after a lot of reading, much of it on this board, I would place myself on the GC end of the spectrum. I believe trans women are trans women, and the more I see language being twisted, the more alarmed I become.

All that said, I find the OP lively, interesting, and best of all, funny. It’s just a shame that much of the latter goes whoosh…

The trick with humour is making sure it's something your audience finds funny, rather than just yourself,

Only if it’s a paying gig.