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Opt out of organ donation

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Wolfgirrl · 29/06/2020 13:31

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/transgender-woman-should-allowed-womb-22270768.amp?__twitter_impression=true

I cannot be the only one to think the new opt-out organ donation scheme will result in a lot of wombs being stolen without permission, if this comes to pass?

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Wolfgirrl · 29/06/2020 14:50

Reproductive organs can be used 'with the explicit consent' of your next of kin.

So theoretically (I assume), you could opt out of donating them, but after your death your next of kin could reverse this decision?

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drinkingwineoutofamug · 29/06/2020 14:50

@JonHammIsMyJamm

www.organdonation.nhs.uk/

Don’t know if it’s been posted but here’s the link to amend your existing register entry or to opt out.

I used this link, there is a contact us section so I have emailed them regarding how to opt out of reproductive organ donation. Stating that this should be an option for women. Also what the fresh hell is mx? Title Ms Mrs Miss Mx Mr ??
SandysMam · 29/06/2020 14:49

@Wolfgirrl thank you, I do totally understand where you are coming from, I just don’t want the matter of opting out of womb donation to be confused with a blanket opting out which may result in less organs not more.

It is such a complicated issue and one I so wish I didn’t have to think about!! I just am so desperate to grow my little ones up, I’d take anything lol!!

Thanks for highlighting anything to do with it though, getting people talking is the best thing of all.

BrokenBrit · 29/06/2020 14:44

I really hope it doesn’t stop people registering as organ donors for life saving donations.

Other organs are listed separately, I hope that if this comes to fruition then reproductive organs are too.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 29/06/2020 14:42

This will lead to some people opting out who otherwise might not have, which surely can't have been the goal when creating an opt out system.

Wolfgirrl · 29/06/2020 14:38

@SandysMam

Sorry it wasnt my intention to dissuade people from giving life saving organs to those genuinely in need Flowers

What i intended to relay was that if uterus transplants for men are even a slight possibility, i want an iron clad guarantee my organs will not be used for this purpose.

Preferably for organ donation as part of the medical transition to be made illegal in all circumstances.

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tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 29/06/2020 14:37

Agree Im happy to be totally harvested but not those bits. Also, many other organs donated mean another persons life is saved, literally life and death but not the case for reproductive organs surely? It's not essential so I add that to the reasons why I'm deeply, deeply, uncomfortable with them being donated.

Hands off my womb, dudes.

OhHolyJesus · 29/06/2020 14:30

I opted out a year or so ago because of this.

My next of kin has strict instructions that they can have anything they like but nothing that was used to make my baby.

SandysMam · 29/06/2020 14:25

If opting out is encouraged that should say!

ShinyFootball · 29/06/2020 14:25

From the other thread on here, I believe reproductive stuff is excluded completely.

I would not want my eggs used for any reason after my death.

SandysMam · 29/06/2020 14:24

Please don’t opt out Sad, I need a kidney, as do many mothers out there. My very small children need their mum. Wombs being “stolen” is probably unlikely, mums being stolen from babies is likely if opting out is discouraged. Just make it so so clear to loved ones what your wishes are, add it to your record etc, but please don’t encourage others not to donate just in case, I beg you.
Thank you to everyone who considers donating, you cannot understand what it means until you are faced with it.

Twizbe · 29/06/2020 14:23

@Bluebooby

Who cares? You'll be dead.

My mum lost a baby to sids about 42 years ago. She found out some time after that some babies at that time had their organs removed without permission. I don't think she ever found out for sure if it had happened to my sister. She was really upset by it, probably still is. So people do care about this stuff.

I wouldn't want my dd to be in a world where a man has my reproductive parts inside of him. Or a woman to be honest, but definitely not a man. I don't want to contribute to something I think is wrong, even if I'm dead.

This is different and I'm very sorry for your mum. Her daughter wasn't able to consent and so as her next of kin your mother should have been asked.

I'm an adult and I'm able to consent to my organs being donated. My husband a my next of kin knows my wishes. When my children are older they can know my wishes too.

I'm very hopeful that I'll die old and warm in my bed meaning my womb and ovaries would be useless for childbearing anyway.

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 29/06/2020 14:23

@DanniArthur

Ah just realised this thread is in the "feminist" section and it's the thought of it going to a trans woman that's the issue? I consider myself a feminist in the sense I want equality so cant understand the issues with trans people.
It's not 'equality' to give a female body part to a man, no matter ho they identify.

Biology determines which sex gives birth, it's nobody's fault.

Crockodoodle · 29/06/2020 14:23

Fwiw even if you opt in or out your next of kin get the final say.

DanniArthur · 29/06/2020 14:20

I mean equal pay, equal opportunities and equal protection against abuse or violence. Something the LGBT community also struggle for. I completely disagree that trans women are 'imposing themselves" on woman's rights. I also tend to avoid this section because my views towards trans people are different from the culture here.
If you dont want to donate your womb that's your decision and I'm sure your family could relay that. Please consider still donating other organs if you can though.

AHF1975 · 29/06/2020 14:19

I suspect the good doctor is trying to be 'controversial'. Even if this were surgically possible, it takes more than just being in possession of a womb to maintain a pregnancy. The 'Emperor's New Clothes' charade wouldn't stretch to a biological male being in possession of a female immune system for a start.

Wolfgirrl · 29/06/2020 14:13

@DanniArthur can you explain what you mean by equality? Trans women should be able to impose themselves upon women's rights rather than creating their own? That's not equality, that's oppression.

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Wolfgirrl · 29/06/2020 14:12

@danniarthur

What about the rights of the babies they intend to carry in the womb? Would you leave all your money to a cause you fundamentally disagreed with, because you're dead and no longer need it?

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DanniArthur · 29/06/2020 14:11

Ah just realised this thread is in the "feminist" section and it's the thought of it going to a trans woman that's the issue? I consider myself a feminist in the sense I want equality so cant understand the issues with trans people.

DanniArthur · 29/06/2020 14:09

I dont see why you wouldnt donate your womb if it can help someone else? At the end of the day... You'll be dead so surely it's better that a piece of you can live on and make someone else's life a bit better?

Bluebooby · 29/06/2020 14:09

Who cares? You'll be dead.

My mum lost a baby to sids about 42 years ago. She found out some time after that some babies at that time had their organs removed without permission. I don't think she ever found out for sure if it had happened to my sister. She was really upset by it, probably still is. So people do care about this stuff.

I wouldn't want my dd to be in a world where a man has my reproductive parts inside of him. Or a woman to be honest, but definitely not a man. I don't want to contribute to something I think is wrong, even if I'm dead.

Wolfgirrl · 29/06/2020 14:07

It is such a shame. I have been registered as an organ donor for many years, but I just do not trust the government not to make some subtle alteration which means reproductive organs are up for grabs.

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lillylemons · 29/06/2020 14:04

I have already opted out I can't donate blood so doubt they would be able to use my organs anyway.

JonHammIsMyJamm · 29/06/2020 13:59

www.organdonation.nhs.uk/

Don’t know if it’s been posted but here’s the link to amend your existing register entry or to opt out.

madcatladyforever · 29/06/2020 13:53

I've had to opt out of organ donation, I'm pissed off there is no box to say why I have done this.
I don't want everyone to think I'm a selfish sod. As it is I can't give blood, tissues, bone marrow or donate organs as I had several blood transfusions in CJD era.
If I could I'd donate everything and I would not care where they went.