Stephen King retweets JKR

Oh Benny. You have so much to learn. There's a thread somewhere with a whole load of examples of the stuff that could never happen, happening. I'll see if I can find it for you.

This would never happen, you would scream and he'd be dealt with

Sent to re education camp you mean?
Cos as we keep on saying, he just has to say the magic words "I'm a woman" and hes teflon.

And this has already bloody happened, dont you read the news?

Trans crowd? So much grossness in your comment.

Where?

@RHOBHfan
Aren't lots of transgender women working in prostitution and often killed and raped by men especially in less developed countries?

I don't think that any man should be able to walk into a female space because he's said he identifies as a female. There should be a process and someone with everyone's best interests at heart should approve you before you can access them? Fair compromise?

And how would we know he’d ‘been through a process’? Surely the fairer ways would be either a third space option that is mixed sex for anyone that doesn’t mind, or for men to be more welcoming of transwomen in their spaces?

"This would never happen, you would scream and he'd be dealt with"
Those silly rape victims. Why didn't they just scream and it would all have been okay.

That I as a man might identify as a woman to get ahead in my career?

Well, you could, couldn't you?

This would never happen, you would scream and he'd be dealt with

Oh bless
You will regret those words Benny.

I don't think that any man should be able to walk into a female space because he's said he identifies as a female. There should be a process and someone with everyone's best interests at heart should approve you before you can access them? Fair compromise?

No. You need to focus on teaching males to expand their view of males to include those who identify as women and girls. Be an inclusive person and teach others to be inclusive of same sex in same sex spaces.

This would never happen.

More shit that never happens that is documented to happen regularly. Great. Here's a couple of examples of things that don't happen.

www.gendertrending.com/2014/01/19/gender-identity-laws-allow-transwoman-to-exhibit-his-erect-penis-in-toronto-ymca-womens-locker-room/
www.christianpost.com/news/planet-fitness-loses-appeal-against-woman-who-lost-membership-opposing-transgender-locker-room-policy.html

There should be a process and someone with everyone's best interests at heart should approve you before you can access them

What interesting and revealing use of pronouns. Hmm.

However, leaving that aside - could you describe how the process should work in practice? And who this someone should be? I think you might find out that you're a TERF if you carry on with this dangerous line of thinking, Benny.

I don't think that any man should be able to walk into a female space because he's said he identifies as a female. There should be a process and someone with everyone's best interests at heart should approve you before you can access them? Fair compromise?

How would we check that the appears-to-be-male-but-claims-to-be-a-woman person entering a female space had been through this 'process'? Would they get a badge or something?

I don't think that any man should be able to walk into a female space because he's said he identifies as a female. There should be a process and someone with everyone's best interests at heart should approve you before you can access them? Fair compromise?

quillette.com/2020/06/07/jk-rowling-is-right-sex-is-real-and-it-is-not-a-spectrum/

This article might help your confusion, Robin

Or this thread
threadreaderapp.com/thread/1271379316291624961.html

Or this article

womansplaceuk.org/2019/10/21/biological-sex-is-not-a-spectrum-there-are-only-two-sexes-in-humans-with-claire-graham/

Or this editorial:
www.wsj.com/articles/the-dangerous-denial-of-sex-11581638089

Or this recently published scientific article might help:
<a class="break-all" href="https://sci-hub.tw/link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12129-020-09877-8" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sci-hub.tw/link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12129-020-09877-8

If you're pressed for time, I suggest reading that last article, I like how it's written. Here's the first paragraph.
This article says nothing novel. It discusses a fact as well-established as the billions of years of evolution that shaped our species. We live in a world, however, that increasingly ignores such truths, and in which the combination of awareness and courage to set the record straight appears rare.

It's madness, honestly. OF COURSE SEX ISN'T A SPECTRUM, how on earth did people get this brainwashed? We aren't clownfish, we have no reason to be this confused. All our ancestors must be laughing their deceased bollocks/ovaries/overocks (wait, literally none of them had those, how weird) off at us.

as a man might identify as a woman to get ahead in my career?

If you're a cyclist, or a weight lifter, or do MMA you could do exactly that.

Could you answer this question, please?

Not interested, Benny. Peddle your shite at someone who cares.

No, you as a man could choose to identify as a woman and then win a ‘women in business’ prize.

Or you as a man could choose to identify as a woman and take a place on an ‘All Woman Shortlist’ for politics (A shortlist that was designed to get more women into parliament because they were underrepresented)

In both circumstances you would be taking the place of a biological woman. Do you honestly think that is fair?

As for “trans crowd”. Well it’s a good enough qualifier as any, and a lot easier than saying “Transwomen, Transmen, their sycophants and their handmaidens”

@Katypyee no they are not. You know it. Everyone knows it. That’s the reason for the rage. Because men just hate being ridiculed.

Robin1984, that first article: For some properties like brain volume and connectivity, trans people possessed values in between those typical of cisgender males and females, both before and after transitioning. Another study found that for certain brain regions, trans individuals appeared similar to cis-individuals with the same gender identity. In that same study, researchers found specific areas of the brain where trans people seemed closer to those with the same assigned sex at birth. Other researchers discovered that trans people have unique structural differences from cis-individuals. It seems to come to several different conclusions. The gist of it seems to be trans people exist, but they are different to non-trans people.

Why would you separate prisoners by gender identity

why the obsession with gender and being validated?

Penises impregnate women. Millions of women. They can impregnate a woman in prison who can't then keep her child

And can rape a woman in a locker room shower

@robin1984: The first section of that article, pointing out that some people are not XX or XY, refers to intersex/DSD/disorders of sexual development. These are rare in the general population: the Intersex Society of North America (isna.org/faq/frequency/ ) says frequency is between 1/1500 and 1/2000. And quite a lot of intersex people are pretty pissed off by the hijacking of their condition to make the trans case. Check out @intersexfacts on Twitter.

The second section, on "sexed brains" is complete, copper-bottomed nonsense. And incidentally, is much more akin to the sort of stuff that Mermaids put out (the "Barbie to GI Joe" scale www.butterfliesandwheels.org/2019/the-barbie-gi-joe-scale/ ) than anything any self-respecting feminist would say or subscribe to. Women as a class are discriminated against on the grounds of biological difference (smaller, weaker) and capacity for childbearing (going to go off and have babies rather than progress up the greasy pole), not some mythical brain structure.

I can't be arsed to carry on. There's gin to be drunk. Can someone else take over for the remaining paragraphs of complete bollocks?