Women have a huge privilege compared to trans women

This is the person who spent £100 000 on surgeries to transition, hardly someone I would see as lacking in privilege.

What a poorly written bunch of self absorbed whinging.

I am not sure what he expected when he started dressing like a woman?

How did he think people would treat him?

He apparently didn't realise all the shit dumped on women and all the harassment and sexist treatment we experience from the get go.

I say welcome to the club dude. Suck it up and deal with it like the rest of us do every day.

It has to be said Diana is doing wonders for AGP awareness.

So if this is about "passing", what about women who can pass as men? Are they "privileged" because they have male privilege, or "not privileged" in the same way a non- passing MTF person allegedly is?

Conundrum eh?

We are privileged to be instantly recognised as belonging to a disadvantaged group....as are most ( all?) transwomen

Just not the same disadvantaged group ?

Eh?

Interesting even 😆

Thank you, intetesting!

@AuntyPasta yes, such a privilege, groped in my school uniform on the bus. I ftoze because i thought he'd dropped his keys or his pen but he was about to put his hand in to my knickers. First week in a new secondary school. Horrible, but of course i didnt tell anybody about this "privilege".

They havent a clue how traumatic it is. They think we are lucky.

Everyone has privilege over me because no one looks at me and sees the Goddess I am inside. If you were to look at me properly, it would be a bit like that bit where Galadriel is tempted by the One ring. The struggle of getting through the day without smiting mortals in righteous Divine fury is a real burden.

The "privilege" is meant to be that people look at me, or any of us, and see a woman.

Does that mean I'm under-privileged because I am mistaken for a man from time to time?

The "privilege" is meant to be that people look at me, or any of us, and see a woman.

And on the flip side, that they don't see these male people as women for the same reason.

’Transwomen face sky-high rates of harassment, abuse and violence. It hasn’t happened to me yet. But it only has to happen once, the possibility is always there’

I think I was 11 the first time I was flashed at by the classic man in a raincoat. Getting home from school as a teenager I had comments shouted at me by adult men from cars and vans. By the time I was in sixth form I’d had a random man in a packed bar - filled with office workers not teenaged boys- stick his hand up my skirt and try to force his fingers inside me as I waited with my friends. I’ve had to get myself and my friends out of situations where men have turned agressive and abusive in a split second because we didn’t want a drink or their attention. As a 40 something I can’t get through a week of running outdoors without having abuse shouted at me from men sitting outside the pub (in non lockdown times) or driving by. I’m an average older woman wearing loose 3/4 length trousers and a loose long sleeved running top.

I’ve been lucky to live in nice, leafy, suburban areas. I don’t think my experiences are exceptional. You get used to it over the years. I still text the driver’s number or name to a friend if I get in a taxi alone. If I have to get the bus I still sit downstairs near the driver if possible. I still walk with my keys in my hand if I’m out alone after dark.

The "privilege" is meant to be that people look at me, or any of us, and see a woman. Well, yes, because that's what I/we are and those people have working eyeballs. That's not a "privilege" any more than people being able to see that I'm short is a privilege.

Thanks @thegcatsmother!

They are the ones with privilege. They weren't brought up as women. People/parents/teachers raised them and reacted to them as male (obviously) so they never back down. They want to be heard so they shout louder and are heard. They weren't socialised to be nice or to avoid conflict so they shout over women, tell us we're wrong and we are bad and we are privileged.

Ha!

Pile of sexist agp twaddle.

Transwomen face sky-high rates of harassment, abuse and violence. It hasn’t happened to me yet. But it only has to happen once, the possibility is always there

Well it has happened numerous times to me, I'd actually hate to sit down and try and count them all including 2 serious incidents which have affected me but so many day to day crap. I guess that would be my privilege as a woman. If I write anything else I want to write I suspect this will be deleted so I'll leave it with my dubious privilege.

Thing is that 'trans' is based on deception, even if people know they're being deceived and try to play along with it. 'Gender' means stereotypes associated with a biological sex. People have, rightly or wrongly, particular emotional associations with each biological sex. So a man 'presenting as the female gender' is essentially trying to play a trick, and make people respond to him as though he's female, and as though the female stereotypes are relevant. What this writer is saying is that women are privileged because we don't need to deceive.

God these men really infuriate me. Privilege???
Like some previous posters mentioned, i was harassed by boys all through primary school, i was told it was a compliment. It made me very withdrawn and uncomfortable around the male sex pretty much all my life. I have struggled with low self esteem, never feeling valued as a person. It seemed to me the only thing of value about me was my 'pretty' face and body. I have never liked attention and I'm not sure if that is my personality or if it was a reaction to all the unwanted attention i was given from a very young age.

Now a mother, and in my forties invisible for the most part to men.........i have never felt so happy, confident and the best part is i love and value myself like never before.

It is something no man who puts on a dress and make up will ever experience and / or understand. How dare these men say they know what a woman is and how a woman feels. They have no clue.

How desperately narcissistic do you have to be to write an entire article based on not having been a victim? He’s full on jumping up and down going ‘pick me!’ ‘Do it more!’ ‘Harder!’
AGP narcissism at full pelt.

This.

What they are too vain or oblivious to seem to realise is that they are unlikely to experience street harassment as they're too old to be of interest to men.

Yep. One of the few advantages of being an older woman is that the verbal harassment tails off. Doesn't make you any less vulnerable to assault, of course.

Take my privilege. Fucking take it.

This person does it deliberately. It's a beautiful illustration of the extremist TRA mindset. They get off on these reversals, the more outrageous and upsetting to women the better.

Let me get this straight though. Women are privileged over transwomen, because transwomen get abuse for being transwomen but really they should be abused for being women? And it's hurtful they're abused for the wrong reason. Is that the essence of the argument?

I think you've got that right, except that in this case it seems to be more that transwomen worry about being abused for being transwomen, and obviously women who are abused for being women have huge privilege over transwomen who have to worry about maybe being abused one day.

@LonginesPrime I posted the entire article on page 1 of this thread. so it's there.