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Lloyd Russell Moyle back-pedals furiously

131 replies

merrymouse · 28/06/2020 09:03

twitter.com/lloyd_rm

But this wasn't just an ill thought out spur of the moment tweet.

This was an article in a magazine.

He wrote:

"Recently, of course, we saw people like JK Rowling using her own sexual assault as justification for discriminating against a group of people who were not responsible for it."

He has asked for that quote to be removed, but the article was posted several days ago. Apparently now that people are asking for his removal from the front bench, he sees his error.

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wellbehavedwomen · 16/07/2020 19:59

He's bloody horrible, and I sincerely hope he's gone for good.

I do feel sorry for his staff, though. They don't deserve to deal with shit from less regulated members of the public, over his behaviour, assuming he's not exaggerating of course.

Kantastic · 16/07/2020 19:59

Didn't he make some ill judged comments about Israel a week or so after his JKR comments?

OMG. How stupid and arrogant would you have to be? One week after his colleague gets sacked for anti-semitism and he nearly gets sacked for being a turd in human form, he starts sounding off about Israel? I suddenly feel very sorry for Kier Starmer. If he appointed this unbelievably stupid prick to a Shadow Minister position the alternatives must have been dire.

Collidascope · 16/07/2020 19:54

"Unleashed a torrent of hate"
"Led to hounding and stress from which I need a few weeks to... recover."

I hope you're not weaponising your abuse and playing the victim there, Lloyd.

OvaHere · 16/07/2020 19:53

Didn't he make some ill judged comments about Israel a week or so after his JKR comments? I don't think this is purely to do with his misogyny (although that should have been enough).

GivesNoFox · 16/07/2020 19:52

I had the unfortunate 'pleasure' of seeing Russell- Moyle in the flesh at a activist meeting in Brighton in 2018, nothing to do with women's rights or gender stuff, more medical based.

He is just as self important and insufferable in person as he is on social media, if not more so, he was also very rude and snappy towards another female attendee that was taking him to task on the lack of results on the promises he and the Labour party in Brighton had made.

Definitely came off as someone who looks down on women.

DidoLamenting · 16/07/2020 19:51

Good riddance. I wonder what prompted it now?

FloralBunting · 16/07/2020 19:50

'A campaign by the right wing media'

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'I am such a foolish liability that I am basically a gift to anyone who opposes Labour government, so I've been told told to fall on my sword in a futile attempt to retain some dignity'

Melroses · 16/07/2020 19:48

So, what's he done?

As far as I can see he has been ignored for the last two weeks ?

Binterested · 16/07/2020 19:46

Right wing media = right women

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 16/07/2020 19:45

Private arse skelping option then, better than nothing but not by much

Siablue · 16/07/2020 19:42

Is that his reason for resigning or was he bollocked by Kier and had a strop? Any glad he is gone.

Did he actually receive that much hate? Dawn Butler had to shut her office due to safety fears. Female MPs (especially black female MPs) get a horrendous level of abuse.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 16/07/2020 19:35

Right wing media campaign? And there was I thinking it was his own stupid words that made his position untenable.

SunsetBeetch · 16/07/2020 19:28

twitter.com/lloyd_rm/status/1283823256944992257?s=19

"This afternoon I spoke to Keir and asked to step back from the front bench duties as Minister for Air Quality and the Natural Environment but remain a Labour and Co-operative MP for Brighton Kemptown and Peacehaven.

See my statement below. 👇 t.co/g1I8T7QLVg "

It is with regret I leave the shadow ministry, owing to a campaign by right-wing media my position has become untenable.

"I shall return to backbenches for the time being to support Keir in defending and furthering the manifesto we stood on and to achieve a Labour government."

Lloyd Russell Moyle back-pedals furiously
Lloyd Russell Moyle back-pedals furiously
DidoLamenting · 29/06/2020 00:09

I posted on the other thread that I didn’t think he should be sacked, but am mulling over why I think that now...and I could be swayed

He should be sacked for his contempt for democracy. His comments about voters in his constituency who voted Tory were despicable.

lionheart · 28/06/2020 22:08

She's not going anywhere. Smile

SophocIestheFox · 28/06/2020 20:45

Love JKR’s response. God, I hope she also got her lawyers to send him a shot across the bows too.

She’s just getting warmed up Grin

Lived experience is everything, unless you’re a middle aged woman, in which case you don’t know anything.

WinterIsGone · 28/06/2020 19:46
Smile
SerenityNowwwww · 28/06/2020 19:41

They obviously learned that from John Lewis, M&S, Body Shop (and my dad circa 1977. ‘That’s the last word young lady - we’ll have no more on the subject!’)

WinterIsGone · 28/06/2020 19:32

Yes, just checked the app, and it doesn't have the report button. Maybe it's a new thing.

I'm disappointed to see Labour saying it'll make no further comment!!!

SerenityNowwwww · 28/06/2020 19:27

I don’t see a report button (I’m on the app)

WinterIsGone · 28/06/2020 19:25

The bbc reports this story at the very end of this article:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53210764

It says "Labour said it would be making no further comment about the issue."

There's also a "report" button at the end of the article. I'd never noticed that before.

teawamutu · 28/06/2020 19:12

LRM talks about his own experiences of abuse in his 'apology'. Is he then weaponising his own experience? So hard to keep up Hmm

DidoLamenting · 28/06/2020 19:05

mobile.twitter.com/adammaanit/status/1097826877597728769

More examples of his unfitness to be an MP. You have to click on "show this thread" to get the full picture.

He should never have been given a Shadow Cabinet post. Starmer has a long way to go yet to clean up the Labour Party.

Langbannedforsafeguardingkids · 28/06/2020 19:05

Isn't it incredible how the modern left is all about "lived experience" and believing in lived experience and making sure everyone understands the lived experiences of others...

Until women talk about our lived experiences of men's abuse and why it makes us afraid of men taking advantage of public policy. Then, and only then, it's "using" our rapes and exploitation. When we talk about men's harms to us and that we're not interested in playing sexualized pretend games with men, our lived experiences are just manipulative tears designed to get what we want.

THIS. It's only certain people's lived experience that matters. Also, only certain people can self ID. Other people can't. Oh I do wonder what the main difference between those two groups of people is...