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NEU advice on Transgender rights

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Sarahbeans · 27/06/2020 19:56

Hello, I am new to all of this feminism / transgender debate, and still have a lot to learn. The JKR debate raised a lot of uncomfortable feelings for me, and the way she has been treated has really opened my eyes to the misogyny women are facing today. Something I had previously thought of as "yesterday's fight." So I apologise if I am asking naive questions, as I said I am new.

My facebook today Popped up the NEU (Teaching Union)'s advice on Transgender rights. I just wanted to check whether the following claim is correct:

"What are the legal obligations on schools/colleges?
Not only is there a moral obligation to support young trans and gender-questioning students in education, but there is a legal one too. The Equality Act 2010 prohibits discrimination of anyone with a protected characteristic. The protected characteristic of gender reassignment covers trans people.

To be protected from gender reassignment discrimination, you do not need to have undergone any specific treatment or surgery. This is because changing your physiological or other gender attributes can be an entirely personal process rather than a medical one. You can be at any stage or part of a stage in the transition process – from proposing to reassign your gender to undergoing a process to reassign your gender or having completed it.

This means that students who want to use a new name, wear new clothes or ask for a new pronoun to be used are protected under the law, regardless of whether they have, or want to have, any medical treatment.

Schools and colleges must also consider gender reassignment when looking at their responsibilities under the Public Sector Equality Duty. This duty asks schools to proactively promote equality by thinking about their practice and changing it."

Thanks.

Their guidance is here, if you want to read it in full: neu.org.uk/advice/supporting-trans-and-gender-questioning-students

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nauticant · 27/06/2020 21:00

Don’t split into boy-girl teams for sports

Rugby teams. Quite simply they've written a load of words but didn't pause to ask themselves what they meant and what the consequences might be.

There's much to argue with but the essential thing is that a child wanting to be treated as the opposite sex in school will lead to a conflict with the rights of those who actually are that sex. However, this conflict, and the rights of those not claiming to be the opposite sex, are never taken into account in these guidance documents. The is partly because these inconvenient and non-special people tend to be girls which is why their rights don't count.

idontsmokeivape · 27/06/2020 20:58

You might find this helpful in understanding the law as pertains to children and schools:
www.transgendertrend.com/uk-transgender-rights-legislation/

There is so much to learn on this issue. In the past year, my eyes have been opened. This may help you to navigate the complications:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3246322-A-Beginners-Guide-to-the-Transgender-Debate-A-Signpost-to-Useful-Mumsnet-Threads

Sarahbeans · 27/06/2020 20:58

@tehBewilderness

Which aspects of the Equality Act do you think they are breaching? And how would you say it breaches Safeguarding?

I do want to challenge this, but as I said I am new to this, so want to be right in what I say.

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Sarahbeans · 27/06/2020 20:54

@Kit19

That's what I thought, but as I'm new to this, I wasn't sure. I will email them to clarify, but just wanted to check first.

Thanks

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TehBewilderness · 27/06/2020 20:50

They will be violating the EA2010 as well as the safeguarding requirements if they follow that advisory.

Kit19 · 27/06/2020 20:47

As I understand it gender reassignment is the protected characteristic

And minors can’t apply for a GRC certificate

FFSFFSFFS · 27/06/2020 20:44

Well what the fuck is a "gender attribute" would be one of my questions?

Would that be a girl being good at maths? A boy liking pink?