Glinner

Who do we sue for this disappointment ?

Maybe I should start a crowd funder for a case against the international network of powerful lesbians. They are loaded up with Christian fundamentalist cash and do they share it? Do they heck.

I'm pretty pissed off with Feminism in general. I came here for the US right wing fundamentalist dollars, had zip. Still waiting for Julie to send my young lesbian wife. Had no dick pics from Linehan. Had to fork out for crowd funders against Stonewall myself. Getting disallusioned.

I forgot about the lesbian wives! Yet again, Mumsnet/feminism fails to deliver. Does the Consumer's Act cover lesbian mail-order wives/disappointing dick pics/Xtian dollars, do you think? Because I put in a lot of work here at the vipering and I'm feeling quite short changed.

I do find a video where a man is talking about antisemitism and encouraging people to be burned to death in the same breath incredibly distasteful. So ta for that lovely clip

Did we watch the same clip? The one I saw had JP ranting about woke idiots who want everyone who doesn't follow their groupthink to be exterminated.

The entire point he's making, in fact, is about the beyond distasteful tendency of a certain subset of the left to bang on about antifascism while being totally in favour of exterminating anyone who disagrees with them.

He wouldn't be able to put "antisemitism" and "gas chambers" together in a bit of satirical/political performance art if the left weren't doing that already. Aim the distaste at the people whose behaviour he's commenting on.

'Both sides'

I find it's often best to look for the side waving the barbed wire wrapped baseball bats & making rape threats.

Then don't be on that side. Those guys are dicks.

You seem to be having a conversation with yourself Myriad

It's amazing how many people have crawled out of the woodwork this weekend.

on both sides

Ooh, we have a new, Trumpian visitor!

Except what you're saying is: I have no beef with trans people, but I do.

I think Twitter is fine. You can run away from anything if you don't like what is said there, as the right wing extremists seem to do at the moment flocking to Parler, but you just have to make up your own mind in that. I wouldn't recommend anyone to leave Twitter.

I agree. Glinner is no feminist. His entire campaign was one of hate against transgender people and he was quite happy to throw women under the bus if they didn't join his cult. I just wish men and women (Most of whom are feminists) would not see trans as a threat to their rights. Sure, a handful of militant activists on both sides say awful things, but most women, trans or not, are just lovely people who pose no threat to each other whatsoever.

Having said that, the idea that he posted dick pics is just ludicrous, but that's not why he was suspended

I'm pretty pissed off with Feminism in general. I came here for the US right wing fundamentalist dollars, had zip. Still waiting for Julie to send my young lesbian wife. Had no dick pics from Linehan. Had to fork out for crowd funders against Stonewall myself. Getting disallusioned.

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I know Scrimshaw. I'm pretty pissed off with Feminism in general. I came here for the US right wing fundamentalist dollars, had zip. Still waiting for Julie to send my young lesbian wife. Had no dick pics from Linehan. Had to fork out for crowd funders against Stonewall myself. Getting disallusioned.

Totally agree about the dick pic being a largely generational thing. I like Glinner. Sometimes his frustration may have clouded his judgement. He's risked so much putting so much into this fight and I'm not surprised his contempt for other blue ticks took over a bit. And he attracted the worst of the trolls and abuse. Still he kept on.

It makes me laugh that someone thinks a man of Glinner's generation would send dick pics, it's something that has become normalised now but which seems utterly bizarre and outlandish to older people. It says a lot about the kind of people who make up such an accusation.

I am not a Glinner fan either - sorry - I do not think a man attacking women and calling them handmaidens or telling lesbians that they are traitors to their community has any place in a feminist movement. But on a human level I can see it's cost him a great deal and I wouldn't wish that kind of harm on anyone. TRAs are absolutely brutal.

its a video about cancel culture and how unforgiving, silencing and censorious people are nowadays.

i think your reaction is a perfect illustration of that dico, thank you.

I do find a video where a man is talking about antisemitism and encouraging people to be burned to death in the same breath incredibly distasteful. So ta for that lovely clip.

One of the advantages of getting a person banned is that they are then free to lie about them to their hearts content. Doesn't surprise me that creeps who send dick pics are accusing others of sending dick pics.

Everybody sensible needs to turn their back on Twitter. The best thing that could happen to it is that it become an echo chamber for extremists.

Fuck Twitter. It's the opposite of a neutral platform, it has far too much influence and it stands for nothing that most people consider good. I hope it goes the way of MySpace.

Down with this sorta thing!

ifNotNowThenWhen2 you're missing the point.

He said something you disagreed with before, so now nothing he says has any merit?

That's the exact point he is making.

Disappointing, really. Mumsnet's not what it's cracked up to be.

Thanks @glinner.. it's lines like this I'll miss the most: "There are plenty of trans people on there who don't want to be associated with these grifters, with one hand down their pants and the other out for donations."

Just curious - where in the hell are we allowed to have a reasoned debate about this? Who can talk about the ways trans rights conflict with women's rights? Who is allowed to give the female side of the debate? Because as far as I can see, all debate on the subject gets branded as hateful, no matter how respectfully you phrase it. Women aren't allowed to take the opposing side on this. Trans people aren't allowed to speak against the orthodoxy on this. Men aren't allowed to be allies to women on this (unless it's to trans women, at the expense of biological women).

Trans rights activists claim they're not policing speech. They claim they're not silencing women. But as far as I can see there is literally no scenario where anyone is allowed to speak for us, at all.

I am so grateful to people like Graham Linehan and J.K Rowling for putting their necks on the line to speak up for us. It chills me to the core to see them being silenced and dismissed like this. By hook or by crook, eh?

Sod Twitter.

I dunno, first we were promised loads of dollars from rightwing American Xtians, then free dick pics.

Disappointing, really. Mumsnet's not what it's cracked up to be.