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Janice Turner on "The righteous anger train is out of control"

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Igneococcus · 27/06/2020 06:32

Every Saturday morning her comment is the first thing I read in the Times and she never disappoints:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/2245cbd4-b7e0-11ea-82eb-1588bf47a52f?shareToken=3800bfc054d81a4bdf4a9425757bd9a9

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littlbrowndog · 27/06/2020 09:05

Thanks Janice

From comments below

A very good and reasonable commentary I thought. I agree that competitive righteousness is the scourge of modern life and seems to underpin all social discourse from the great unrighteous who dared to go to the South Coast beaches to all those colonialists and racists who read the wrong books, listen to the wrong music, look at the wrong statues, or hold the wrong views. What is not recognised is that it is your colleagues in the media Janice who police the righteousness meter and their self-proclaimed role as the 'gotcha brigade' appear to have this as their sole journalistic strategy - to shame, call out and condemn whoever fails their unilaterally-determined righteousness standards. In my opinion history will show that the high priests and priestesses of this new woke religion have a lot to answer for, but so do those of us who cannot see that paradoxically it is tolerance, diversity and social inclusion that is most being challenged by this new religion.

RHTawneyonabus · 27/06/2020 09:02

What could Willets and Fury possibly have that makes them immune from the criticism levelled at Nicholson and JKR?! It’s like a modern day witch hunt.

ThinEndoftheWedge · 27/06/2020 09:02

God she’s good.

Datun · 27/06/2020 08:59

@UniversalAunt

Taken from the comments section of The Times article.

‘The worst thing is that the reason the activists are angry with Baroness Nicholson is that she drew attention to the fact that Asda had partnered with an organisation that promoted a book, for school pupils and school libraries, in which a young trans person told in morally neutral terms of having sex at the age of six and enjoying it. The organisation also used the slogan "love has no age limit" in the materials it created for Asda. This is not only incorrect, the law on the age of consent is clear and well established, it also sends a very dangerous anti-safeguarding message to children. You would have thought that protecting children is something we could all agree on. But apparently not.‘

Janet Turner's article is excellent. The woman is absolutely furious.

And I'm assuming that article was sent in before she found out Graham Linehan has been suspended from twitter for use of the word groomer.

It feels as though there are too many leaks to staunch, and the boat is really about to sink.

ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings · 27/06/2020 08:58

She's amazing. It never fails to blow my mind how hard these groups are working to undo every scrap of progress society has made, while somehow positioning themselves (in their own minds at least) as being progressive and righteous. That bit about the statue celebrating women's suffrage being torn down was fucking chilling.

ThePurported · 27/06/2020 08:45

"The hypocrisy and gall of Lord Willetts in signing that letter, when his voting record suggests he must share her views, is staggering. Did he believe that in disavowing a fellow Tory peer, he might himself be spared the firing squad? The mob still might come for him, although I doubt he’s top of their list. Because this is not about historic votes by social conservatives but a proxy war."

Amen. I love Turner's writing, this is one of her best.

StrangeLookingParasite · 27/06/2020 08:42

@BovaryX

the hypocrisy and gall of Lord Willetts in signing that letter, when his voting record suggests he must share her views, is staggering. Did he believe that in disavowing a fellow Tory peer, he might himself be spared the firing squad? The mob still might come for him

This reminds me of a quote by someone whose statue may yet fall to in the purity storm

Each one hopes that if he feeds the crocodile enough, the crocodile will eat him last

See also 'I didn't think the leopards would eat my face!'
Al1Langdownthecleghole · 27/06/2020 08:31

Fantastic article. Thank You once again Janice.

JulesJules · 27/06/2020 08:28

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UniversalAunt · 27/06/2020 08:25

Taken from the comments section of The Times article.

‘The worst thing is that the reason the activists are angry with Baroness Nicholson is that she drew attention to the fact that Asda had partnered with an organisation that promoted a book, for school pupils and school libraries, in which a young trans person told in morally neutral terms of having sex at the age of six and enjoying it. The organisation also used the slogan "love has no age limit" in the materials it created for Asda. This is not only incorrect, the law on the age of consent is clear and well established, it also sends a very dangerous anti-safeguarding message to children. You would have thought that protecting children is something we could all agree on. But apparently not.‘

PurpleCrowbarWhereIsLangCleg · 27/06/2020 08:25

Nailed it. Excellent article as always.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 27/06/2020 08:17

Magnificent.

As an aside, anyone else think that the pulling down of a statue by a woman artist celebrating women’s suffrage won’t have been random in the least?

MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously · 27/06/2020 08:15

Excellent article

AskDan · 27/06/2020 08:14

Sorry..that is right ...interview with the baroness. Sorry was making breakfast.

In her view, the Booker would not still exist without her input.

PaleBlueMoonlight · 27/06/2020 08:11

Today programme, radio 4, 7.55 am ish

isabellerossignol · 27/06/2020 08:10

Janice Turner is such a great writer on this issue.

PaleBlueMoonlight · 27/06/2020 08:09

Am interview with the Booker prize someone followed by an interview with the Baroness

BaronessWrongCrowd · 27/06/2020 08:05

What was on Radio 4?

PaleBlueMoonlight · 27/06/2020 08:04

@AskDan

On Radio 4 now...
I was referring to this with the “How dignified” comment, though Janice is too.
BaronessWrongCrowd · 27/06/2020 08:00

Blisteringly good column.

PaleBlueMoonlight · 27/06/2020 08:00

How dignified. And what a great article.

AnneLovesGilbert · 27/06/2020 07:57

What a fantastic piece. And the comments are very heartening. Thank you for sharing.

EmpressLangClegSpartacus · 27/06/2020 07:54

Janice is the reason I subscribed to the Times too.

AskDan · 27/06/2020 07:50

On Radio 4 now...

NotAssigned · 27/06/2020 07:46

Brava Janice.

Brilliant writing.

I ditched my guardian subscription ages ago and replaced it with a Times one.