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Janice Turner on "The righteous anger train is out of control"

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Igneococcus · 27/06/2020 06:32

Every Saturday morning her comment is the first thing I read in the Times and she never disappoints:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/2245cbd4-b7e0-11ea-82eb-1588bf47a52f?shareToken=3800bfc054d81a4bdf4a9425757bd9a9

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Mollyollydolly · 27/06/2020 12:29

Janice is such a fantastic writer. The anger I've felt all week, she articulates it so well. Made me tearful seeing it all there in black and white. It's so bloody unfair! What a woman she is.

MorrisZapp · 27/06/2020 12:27

Absolutely barnstorming. There was a really good piece about cancel culture in yesterday's Times too.

FiveFootTwoEyesOfBlue · 27/06/2020 12:23

I'm going to subscribe to the Times now. They seem to be fearless and ahead of the curve on this issue, and have the absolute best writers.

NotAGirl · 27/06/2020 12:09

Brilliant article

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 27/06/2020 12:03

This is finally not just a feminist issue - it's everyone's issue.

Indeed. First they came for the feminists, but you were a fool if you thought they'd stop there.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 27/06/2020 11:56

Agree with all the comments on here. And interestingly there are over 600 comments from men and womenunder that article - many just getting to grips with what's happening with 99% of them horrified.
This is finally not just a feminist issue - it's everyone's issue.

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 27/06/2020 11:52

She’s just so talented - fabulous article.

& I have Lamahaha to blame for my soggy face!

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 27/06/2020 11:31

cor blimey that piece is excoriating

Janice's writing is extraordinary, and she's also just so fucking right

Flowers
GrouchyKiwi · 27/06/2020 11:27

Brilliant article. Thanks for sharing.

BillyCotton · 27/06/2020 11:15

Janice Turner always writes brilliant pieces in the Times but every so often she completely blows me away. Just when you think she can't top that here she has, again.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 27/06/2020 11:10

Excellent article. Thank you, Janice.

boatyardblues · 27/06/2020 11:09

Janice nails it yet again. Star

Lamahaha · 27/06/2020 11:07

...elderly, disabled woman who has spent so much of her life helping the most disadvantaged and vulnerable women and girls.

She also helps boys. Get out your hankies:
(from another thread)
www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/WkiLgbPpdd/boy-in-the-photo

StealthPolarBear · 27/06/2020 10:38

Excellent article

RoyalCorgi · 27/06/2020 10:22

That is truly a breathtaking piece of writing from Janice. I would like to think that Damian Barr and his acolytes read the list of Emma Nicholson's achievements and maybe feel a dawning sense of shame at the way they have bullied an elderly, disabled woman who has spent so much of her life helping the most disadvantaged and vulnerable women and girls.

I doubt it, though. I had a quick look at Barr's Twitter feed, and because some people have challenged him on his views, he's now presenting himself as a victim - the brave hero who stood up against the evil baroness.

What a despicable little man he is.

Binterested · 27/06/2020 10:12

Journalists, with a few honourable exceptions, have been a massive disappointment in this whole thing.

They follow each other fawningly but police others who are not in the in crowd. It’s not an appealing sight.

teawamutu · 27/06/2020 10:07

@Igneococcus

Giles Coren has popped up in the comments:

"Wonderful. You are without peer on this (annoyingly massive) issue."

YES!!!
teawamutu · 27/06/2020 10:06

Surgical precision and fury - marvellous combination.

My favourite line concerned that self-righteous cockwomble Damian Barr, who has so far sent school-age Stonewall reading lists to women challenging him, but failed to respond to anyone (esp women) asking when the campaign against Willetts will start.

Janice Turner on "The righteous anger train is out of control"
Igneococcus · 27/06/2020 10:05

Giles Coren has popped up in the comments:

"Wonderful. You are without peer on this (annoyingly massive) issue."

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HumphreyCobblers · 27/06/2020 09:20

Thank you so much for this article.

Littlebrown and BovaryX I entirely agree. Also afraid that if reputable people do not start to stand up against this then we will get someone like Farage making themselves the public face of anti woke sentiment, with grim results.

littlbrowndog · 27/06/2020 09:17

From buck angel

Janice Turner on "The righteous anger train is out of control"
franke · 27/06/2020 09:11

Thank you @RHTawneyonabus. I've been trying and failing to articulate that thought in one pithy statement. You're spot on. Sex doesn't matter, my arse.

Fantastic article but I feel a great deal of doubling down by TRA since the gov put the breaks on GRA reform. It's going to be a long haul.

Lamahaha · 27/06/2020 09:10

I don't know exactly how Twitter works, as I don't post much and certainly nothing controversial. Is it possible to delete replies to one's own Tweets?

I'm asking because of the porny tweets posted on her Ickabog replies to the children. Can the ugly TRA responses be quickly deleted?

If so, it might all be a good thing. No doubt it's parents who read her Twitter and anyway, would never show their children the ugliness. But THEY the parents get to see it, before it is cleaned up. That would be enough for them to know what's what. In other words: sunlight.

BovaryX · 27/06/2020 09:07

In my opinion history will show that the high priests and priestesses of this new woke religion have a lot to answer for, but so do those of us who cannot see that paradoxically it is tolerance, diversity and social inclusion that is most being challenged by this new religion

littlebrown

Thanks for posting this. It is absolutely true. As is the media's complicity in promoting this totalitarian agenda.

littlbrowndog · 27/06/2020 09:07

Very interesting piece but it makes uneasy reading. Strange how the people being targeted (JKRowling, Lady Nicholson and numerous others) have outstanding records of altruistism, philanthropy and humanitarian works whereas those individuals spearheading the attacks against them have none and in fact many have been benefactors of those good works, one example of many being Ben Okri mentioned in the article, but the list is endless. This dictatorial, intolerant "small minority" are already having a huge effect on society and have set in motion (as this article accurately illustrates) a bandwagon that's driven by fear and appeasement that is now uncontrollable with no end in sight - unless a concerted effort is taken now by the "majority" to derail it - for the sake of all of us.