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PCs suspended over photos of murder scene

186 replies

Lettera · 25/06/2020 19:05

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-53185177

Men. They never disappoint.

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averysuitablegirl · 26/06/2020 08:51

If the officers were female, the news would have been about 'female police officers'.

The lack of media coverage might racist, due to the women being black, or because the Met wants to suppress the information about the photos taken of two dead women, and then distributed on a personal WA group.

BaronessBrighterThanYou · 26/06/2020 08:46

Yes the article doesn't mention the sex of the officers concerned. But that makes me assume that the sex of the perpetrators is Male. Because, you know, I am now very suspicious of the press.

For some reason these days the media are so reluctant to name the problem.

picklemewalnuts · 26/06/2020 08:45

I don't understand. Would the police usually go looking for two women late home from a party?
And if you were worried before calling the police wouldn't you go and look where you last saw them?

It's a horrible crime. Awful for the family, and everyone at the party.

Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 26/06/2020 08:45

Dawn Butler MP, whose constituency borders the park where the women were found, told Channel 44*: 'It is so disturbing that it is just unthinkable. To take a selfie with two dead women and then to share that with a forum on a Whatsapp group it makes you wonder just whats going on and what these officers have been up to previously

Yes. What have they been up to previously?!

Absolutely horrendous. They have to be named, shamed and sent to prison. Those lovely women, snuffed out by a monster and then degraded even in death by those trusted to seek justice. Their poor families.

botedbored · 26/06/2020 08:42

It's weird because there isn't much news at the moment

Binterested · 26/06/2020 08:40

Looks like general lack of interest then Sad

botedbored · 26/06/2020 08:39

I'm concerned by the lack of media coverage. Two women murdered in a public park (before it was dark I believe) by a stranger and hardly any coverage?

It's rare so you'd would think much more coverage. I mean the murderer is still out there

botedbored · 26/06/2020 08:37

This is grim. The officers deserve to be sacked. What possessed them to share such images?

It's horrendous , why would they ever think do this?!

beargrass · 26/06/2020 08:32

The Mail has a lot of detail on this horrific, tragic story:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8460725/Two-police-officers-arrested-inappropriate-pictures-taken-bodies-two-sisters.html

Nothing on the officers being male or female, but their story does say this about the suspect:

"A stranger, now confirmed to be male, killed the half sisters in a vicious knife attack sometime after 1am."

Binterested · 26/06/2020 08:31

I wondered if there was some sort of embargo on saying more. Normally the Evening Standard at least would be all over this story not least because it’s so unusual. I don’t know why there would be a media ban though Sad

Crockodoodle · 26/06/2020 08:26

I'm concerned by the lack of media coverage. Two women murdered in a public park (before it was dark I believe) by a stranger and hardly any coverage?

RoyalCorgi · 26/06/2020 08:23

This is such a distressing story - both the original murder and the police sharing photographs of the bodies.

It's also relatively unusual for people to be murdered by strangers in these kinds of circumstances, let alone for two women to be killed together. I've been wondering if more than one attacker was involved. I just hope the police get their act together and find who did it.

stillathing · 26/06/2020 07:21

This is utterly chilling in so many ways. I don't understand the mindset that would lead a police officer to photograph and then share pictures of dead women.

The murderer is still at large.

I wondered at first if part of the lack of coverage was that Nicole and Bibaa had broken some unwritten rule by being female and out after dark. But I agree that race must play a part. I am horrified.

averysuitablegirl · 26/06/2020 07:09

I came on to post about this.

The media silence, the Met's mishandling of the case and the information about the photos needs to be more widely known about.

Re the taking and distribution of photos from the crime scene. I expect there is a lot of hasty clearing of phones and computers going on amongst police officers at the moment.

Casino218 · 26/06/2020 07:03

I feel there's a real problem at the heart of the police force. Nothing surprises me anymore.We are not seeing this in other 'professions' why the police?

LangClegTheBeardedVulture · 26/06/2020 06:56

The police Allegedly also “accidentally” cleared a load of rubbish from the crime scene. Which could have been useful forensic evidence.

I think the fact these are black women has a lot to do with the police’s absolutely shocking behaviour thus far

Binterested · 26/06/2020 06:47

Obviously I don’t know what happened but this whole story is so awful. Their poor parents - and now this offence on top Sad

Finfintytint · 26/06/2020 02:51

This is grim. The officers deserve to be sacked. What possessed them to share such images?

ShinyFootball · 26/06/2020 02:34

I heard about this on the news earlier but didn't know the bit about the bodies being found much later.

Is the implication that the murderer didn't stab them and run off (as I assumed) but did other stuff?

I mean are we talking met officers photoing undressed dead women here and sending it to their mates?

InTheShadowOfTheMushroomCloud · 25/06/2020 23:18

Yes what a beautiful picture

DuDuDuLangaLangaBingBong · 25/06/2020 23:03

@stumbledin

I was just coming on here to post about this after I saw a post on facebook.

These poor women and their families. No respect.

And at a time of Black Lives Matter another shockingly awful example of police being seen to treat people from BAME communities from thoughtless sloppiness to outright racism.

It is no consolation to the family but if any of you haven't seen please take a look at the photo taken of the women dancing together with fairy lights what must have been very shortly before they were killed.
i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article22220757.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/0_Bibaa-Henry-and-Nicole-Smallman.jpg

And dont let their horrible end overwrite them and their lives.

RIP Nicole and Bibaa

Sad

Beautiful picture.
DidoLamenting · 25/06/2020 22:56

But for me the patriarchy is about misogyny and women can uphold patriarchal views as much as men

I would be very surprised if it were women but if it were this is a bloody pathetic excuse.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/06/2020 21:24

I can't think of any possible justification of that. I hope they're sacked.

I agree. They should face criminal charges. Horrific Thanks

QuentinWinters · 25/06/2020 21:17

i doubt their being black had anything to do with it
Really?
You think the same would happen if it was white men? Hmm

alexdgr8 · 25/06/2020 20:42

i think with adult who are not otherwise vulnerable, the police have a protocol that a certain time has to have passed before they can be regarded as missing persons.
you can see why. so often people wander off or for whatever reson leave their usual habits and haunts without notice. most are ok. most turn up later.
but still i do think there should be some leeway, when a relative can attest to their particular character and habits, to institute a search.
i doubt their being black had anything to do with it. the photos. the people who took them are lacking in basic decency and ought not to be in the police.