If someone identifies as an amputee they are given psychological help

*Many vicars were incensed they were supposed to 'collude' with gay people and conduct same sex marriages. Hence why gay couples still cannot marry in most churches."

So the vicars in most churches aren't actually forced to collude with anything they don't believe in.

Any parallel breaks down c9mpletely when you recall that gay people just wanted to be themselves and trans people want to change themselves

Gender dysphoric people require others to collude in their 'condition' in order to live their lives as the opposite gender.

Many vicars were incensed they were supposed to 'collude' with gay people and conduct same sex marriages. Hence why gay couples still cannot marry in most churches.

So there are certainly parallels between being gay and being trans.

A royal we of course!

The implication saphos is that there is something wrong with gay people , in the same what that some transpeople think there is something wrong with them that needs fixing , whereas we would say there is nothing wrong on being gay

Nope but I can still use my brain.

The comparison to being gay seems pretty offensive to me.

Are you gay @BlueBooby ? I am and don't find it offensive.

Jess there are people who think that a limb has been amputated and will for example use a wheelchair because of their "missing" leg. Strange but true

I think your comparisom with an amputee is really quite odd, offensive almost.

you dont ''identify' as an amputee, you either are, or you arent.

What the parrallel with gender dysphoria I have no idea!

@Dhalmeup I think you've misunderstood my post.

Tolerance is not the best word. Acceptance is a better word.

But for gender dysphoric people acceptance of their beliefs means collusion with them.

Sexual preference is not akin with a dysphoria, the comparisons to being gay are offensive.

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To add to midgets post ... anyone who insists on dismantling safeguards for women and girls to fully validate their needs needs to have a good hard look in the mirror. As far as I'm aware gay people have not asked this. So comparisons to homosexuality are offensive and not relevant.

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Gay people require nothing but tolerance from other people in order to live their lives as gay people.

Gender dysphoric people require others to collude in their 'condition' in order to live their lives as the opposite gender.

And being gay is not a mental condition

If someone identifies as obese they are given psychological help and steered away from modifying their body. They are not immediately affirmed, applauded by their friends and sent for surgery. Anorexia is the same.
I am really struggling with the difference between this and gender dysphoria, can anyone, esp with a psychiatry background explain please?

@JellySlice how silly.

If someone only ‘identifies’ as being obese when in fact they are a normal or under weight are they put on weight loss drugs, offered weight loss surgery, told to diet?

The comparison to being gay seems pretty offensive to me. Being gay doesn't involve any form of medical treatment.

No idea op. I'm a BDD sufferer. No idea at all why it is treated differently if it's focused on your privates. Makes no sense whatsoever.

I think anyone should be able to live their life and express themselves as they see fit without fear or discrimination

When it comes to needing surgical modification to achieve that, then it becomes something more akin to the OP post than to homosexuality,,,where they didn't want to change anything about themselves,

And no matter how you express yourself, until we have rid the world of sexism ( discrim8nation and harm based on sex, not gender) then we need to separate gender and sex as concerns and ensure that sex separation is provided where appropriate , and we may also need gender separation as well

Homosexuality used to be classed as a mental illness.

If giving in to the 'mental disorder' brings happiness and contentment to a high number of people then it makes sense that it would be re-classified to be a condition rather than a mental disorder.

Gay people who are able to live their lives 'out' as gay and have relationships are ultimately happier than those who suppress it.

Studies have shown that people who have transitioned are happier than those who haven't:

www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321258

There are no studies to show that people who identify are amputees are happier after amputating their limbs. I presume if enough people did amputate their limbs and reported increased happiness and contentment afterwards then it would be re-classified too.

If someone identifies as obese they are given psychological help and steered away from modifying their body. They are not immediately affirmed, applauded by their friends and sent for surgery. Anorexia is the same.
I am really struggling with the difference between this and gender dysphoria, can anyone, esp with a psychiatry background explain please?