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Woodcraft folk

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Kit19 · 24/06/2020 07:19

Anyone sending their children to this lot might want to have a read

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Justhadathought · 24/06/2020 10:19

Ah okay. So it is a middle class thing then? That makes a bit more sense

In what way does it make sense? I'm not sure what you think 'middle class' is, or means? Middle class seems a very much over-used phrase in recent decades, and it seems to mean different things to different people.

Justhadathought · 24/06/2020 10:15

I have never heard of this association outside of Mumsnet! I assume it’s a rich middle class Home Counties kind of thing

Do you have children? Woodcraft folk have clubs all over the country and in every town and city, and have been around for many decades. They were always an alternative to Brownies/guides/scouts etc

stillathing · 24/06/2020 10:12

It's definitely not only middle class in my experience.

I'd love to hear from any other parents whose kids go to Woodcraft? I chose it especially because I thought my kid could do with an environment different to their school, which has very rigid gender stereotypes.

I'm really pissed off that what should have been a safe space is now another threat, simply because my child doesn't conform to stereotypes.

lottiegarbanzo · 24/06/2020 09:33

While it is widespread, I only know about it because a friend went when we were children (not in the home counties). But I've never known anyone go to those junior military things - air and sea cadets (is there an army one?) and didn't know as a child that they existed. So I suspect that's a narrow social bubble thing really.

I suppose WF are middle class but the point is that, unlike cubs and Brownies, they're not religiously-affiliated (I know that's softened), or pseudo-militaristic in origin. I imagine there might be some nature-based woo but it would be hard to have more than the Brownies, with their sprites, pixies, owls, magic ponds and mushrooms. Not a big step from there to magic unicorns really.

SallyArmley · 24/06/2020 09:21

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justanotherneighinparadise · 24/06/2020 09:13

Ah okay. So it is a middle class thing then? That makes a bit more sense.

Gwynfluff · 24/06/2020 09:07

It is middle class though. Hippy version of guiding/scouts. Parents are the leaders though so they take it in turns to run the sessions.

justanotherneighinparadise · 24/06/2020 09:04

I obviously live under a rock.

lottiegarbanzo · 24/06/2020 09:02

Erm no, it's a long-established, geographically widespread, atheist, humanist, nature-loving thing.

justanotherneighinparadise · 24/06/2020 08:57

I have never heard of this association outside of Mumsnet! I assume it’s a rich middle class Home Counties kind of thing?

Lesserspottedmama · 24/06/2020 08:46

Gosh thanks for posting this OP as we had favoured woodcraft folk over cub scouts for DS aged 7 and had been looking into this just before lockdown. How worrying, will steer well clear I think but it does seem such a shame.

Kit19 · 24/06/2020 08:30

I’m glad my husband is no longer a cub leader. I can just imagine the sort of gender woo he’d have been expected to sign up to

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SunsetBeetch · 24/06/2020 08:22

Oh god that is shocking. Why are they even getting involved in this gender nonsense?

Agrona · 24/06/2020 08:02

They used the Gender Unicorn!!!!

Envy Not envy.

Kit19 · 24/06/2020 07:24

Thread - dr Em is on the case

twitter.com/djandyhealey/status/1275387597167177728?s=21

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Kit19 · 24/06/2020 07:19

woodcraft.org.uk/trans-inclusion

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