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GeraltOfRivia · 23/06/2020 17:31

I replied to Amnesty in relation the assertion that:

"The reality is that men who abuse women already have plenty of existing opportunities to do so."

In the context that this means that opening women's spaces will have no impact as, hey, women are already attacked.

Their response...

"Our policy on transgender rights is not going to change. My colleague provided you with plenty of examples that back up our position that self-identification is no threat to women’s rights. If you choose not to accept that, we are just going to have to agree to disagree." And then saying that if I provide details they'll remove me from their database so I don't get asked to donate.

So there you go. They will most definitely prioritise this issue over women's concerns.

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Thinkingabout1t · 23/06/2020 17:57

I emailed to tell Amnesty why i was unsubscribing from their newsletters and campaigns, and would not be donating any more. Haven’t heard back. Given what I’ve read here, I’m glad.

FreeKitties · 23/06/2020 17:57

OP if you can post the reply on fb or Twitter, the more you can get word out about these organisations that refuse to recognise women’s concerns the better, and you may be able to get it under the eye of journalists.

check out #boycottBodyShop to see what happens when women are ignored !

TheTamingOfTheresa · 23/06/2020 17:53

Creeps. That’s the last donation I ever make to them

GeraltOfRivia · 23/06/2020 17:49

I could complain. Aye. It's times like this I wish my mate still worked in journalism. She used to have loads of contacts, some of whom would have been well up for a "Amnesty tells women to shut up and put up" headline.

Their own women's human rights page sets out why sex matters and directly equates this to "being born a girl"

www.amnesty.org.uk/womens-girls-human-rights-maternal-health-violence

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ScrimpshawTheSecond · 23/06/2020 17:47

Highly unprofessional. Also, wrong.

'Our policy on transgender rights is not going to change.'

What waffle. No organisation picks a policy and stays with it no matter what. Especially considering an NGO/pressure group exists to try and make change, to try and negate the need for itself, so really needs to be responsive and adaptable as matters progress. It's clearly a member of staff reacting in a personal and emotive manner.

I would say a complaint was justified here, though I fully understand it's draining and probably pointless.

ChaToilLeam · 23/06/2020 17:47

Not a penny more from me. They seem to forget that they have a lot of female donors and volunteers who aren’t impressed with this kind of brush-off. I was already angry with them with their stance on “sex work”.

midgebabe · 23/06/2020 17:45

Men will attack women
We won't do anything about it
We won't do anything about the negative impact that shared resources have on women.
Everything should be mixed sex.

SerenityNowwwww · 23/06/2020 17:44

Wow ‘shut up you stupid woman’ is about it really.

Amnesty really are crap. The only bad thing about this lockdown is that they used to chug next to my office a lot and I would often engage...

Kit19 · 23/06/2020 17:42

You could escalate it - ask for a copy of their complaints policy And insist on going through all the levels of it

I doubt they will rethink their stance but complaints are a pain & suck up organisational energy so at least they’d get to experience how it feels to be us

Enderthedragon · 23/06/2020 17:39

What a weirdly unprofessional reply.

'God will you just shut the fuck up you annoying woman, showing concern for the safety of women and girls. Who do you think we are - Amnesty International or something?'

GeraltOfRivia · 23/06/2020 17:35

I'm furious. I'm really not coping with feeling so impotent. Angry

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Kit19 · 23/06/2020 17:34

“We’re going to ignore any inconvenient evidence that disproves our need to prioritise trans women over women now fuck off”

I genuinely don’t know whether to laugh or cry

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