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ASDA respond to Baroness Nicholson

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TheShoesa · 23/06/2020 12:10

mobile.twitter.com/Baroness_Nichol/status/1275377329364221952

How long until the backlash do you think?

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Enderthedragon · 23/06/2020 16:49

Munroe Bergdorf is encouraging their followers to complain to parliament about Baroness Nicholson.

The other day, The Baroness started a tweet with 'Dear Mr Bergdorf' eeeeeek! Can you imagine how that went down? Grin

Kit19 · 23/06/2020 16:48

The problem is carlotta several members of the House of Lords notably baronesses hunt & barker and lord cashman have been at the forefront of pushing this agenda

SarahTancredi · 23/06/2020 16:44

Silly meHmm paedophilia far more important

StealthPolarBear · 23/06/2020 16:42

Women and people with disabilities SarahTancredi? They don't get you brownie points, borr-rring.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 23/06/2020 16:28

A cynic might say it's far cheaper and easier to stick a few rainbow flags on your Twitter account than take a genuine look at working practices and how one might have to make enormous changes to tackle, say, equal pay, fair trade, workers' rights, etc.

Carlottacoffee · 23/06/2020 16:26

It’s brilliant she has stepped forward. I wonder when the TRA will notice her. I think there usual tactics will cause quite a stir in the HOL.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 23/06/2020 16:24

Im far more worried that she'll just get overwhelmed with the sheer numbers of organisations and institutions that have been captured

Yes, but I have a bit of a hope that once the dominoes start to fall, others will see the way the wind is blowing and start to actually do due diligence themselves. Die-hard optimist, me.

SarahTancredi · 23/06/2020 16:15

As someone said above. They’re a supermarket. They should stick to selling tea bags and cucumbers. There really wasn’t any need for this to happen

Especially when theres so much stuff "behind the scenes" companies can do to be inclusive. Like genuinely trying to not be a shitty company. Make sure your staff are paid equally. Make sure you are upholding the law with regards to maternity and pregnancy rights and the rights of those with disabilities.

Make sure your provisions for disabilities exceed "adequate" and are consistent across the board.

Sort out your customer service.

Ensure staff are generally just looked after and feel safe and are listened to if they have a complaint.

But i guess none of that elevates your status on twitter so it doesnt count Hmm

Carlottacoffee · 23/06/2020 16:11

I do hope they are going to recall all the packs...

RUOKHon · 23/06/2020 16:02

I was being facetious but I don’t think it came across well!

WTF were Asda doing getting involved with all this in the first place? Trying to score cheap woke points at the expense of children’s safeguarding.

As someone said above. They’re a supermarket. They should stick to selling tea bags and cucumbers. There really wasn’t any need for this to happen.

Ninkanink · 23/06/2020 14:48

@RUOKHon

Thank god. I can check out my order with George now!
I won’t be shopping with ASDA again. This is too little, too late.

ASDA, you should have been far more stringent in choosing your charity partners. You should have been far more stringent in checking their materials. You should have been far more stringent in determining what organisations you are funding.

You should have kept your fingers out of the PIE. You have demonstrated that you don’t have the first clue about safeguarding. Shame on you.

You should send an email to every single household that received the original email, clearly setting out your mistakes and retracting all the materials included in the pack.

You should apologise to all your customers for thinking you have any remit to address parenting skills and/or the tackling of issues relating to sexuality on behalf of your customers and their children or young people. You are a supermarket. You have no business getting involved in anything but selling your wares! Focus on making your corporate footprint more ethical, right across the board, rather than presuming to preach at or lecture your customers.

StealthPolarBear · 23/06/2020 14:43

Interesting

Kit19 · 23/06/2020 14:43

the thing is, they cant cancel the Baroness, they really cant so they can send her shitty abusive messages till the cows come home, but she isnt going to go anywhere!

Im far more worried that she'll just get overwhelmed with the sheer numbers of organisations and institutions that have been captured

kesstrel · 23/06/2020 14:40

I doubt ASDA will get back the £100,000 they donated to this "charity" to go into schools and preach their message to children there, however.

Thisismytimetoshine · 23/06/2020 14:37

@Igmum

Excellent result! I wrote to the CEO and got a poorly written email back from 'Jon' about misunderstanding the text. Wrote back to the CEO quoting the section about the 6-year old giving oral sex, highlighted in bold and asked which bits I had misunderstood. So pleased to see this letter to the best Baroness
It is an excellent result, but it shouldn't have taken someone with the Baroness' influence, really. Having it pointed out should have been enough. I'm not really impressed that it took the amount of exposure that it did to get them to take it seriously.
MondayYogurt · 23/06/2020 14:34

The TRA hate child and actively want to hurt and sexually abuse them. That's the only conclusion I can make.

ASDA respond to Baroness Nicholson
MondayYogurt · 23/06/2020 14:32

And here come the TRA child abuse apologists, busy minimising the grooming.

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Coffeeandbeans · 23/06/2020 14:29

Just goes to show the power of a title. Perhaps I need to identify as a sir. Joking aside heads should roll at Asda and well done to the Baroness.

SarahTancredi · 23/06/2020 14:28

Thank god. I can check out my order with George now!

But they haven't even severed ties with the agency.

RUOKHon · 23/06/2020 14:24

Thank god. I can check out my order with George now!

ForeverInSunset · 23/06/2020 14:23

The worrying thing is the campaign that a certain TRA is mounting against Baroness Nicholson!

It's being shared all over Instagram as a response to "black trans lives matters". They are really whipping up their supporters against the Baroness.

Aesopfable · 23/06/2020 14:21

As soon as we became aware, we asked for the material to be removed

So you didn’t think “shit! Why have we partnered with an organisation promoting paedophilia in schools. We must distance ourselves from the immediately”

No!

Your simple asked them not to be so obvious Angry

mejon · 23/06/2020 14:13

Good result but the mind still boggles as to why Asda - a grocery shop, thought they needed to get involved in explaining inclusivity and diversity to anyone let alone children.

SarahTancredi · 23/06/2020 14:11

It's a good letter and hopefully an effective lesson to a massive organisation that diversity and inclusion is being used as a Trojan horse by some very dodgy people - especially those wishing to target children in relation to sex and sexuality

Nah

People have been alerting everyone to this for years.

All that's happened is that those pointing it our are blocked banned or arrested Hmm

This letter is one big " we are sorry we got caught"

Absolutely no one is backing down. Girl guides , nspcc, body shop, lush etc no one.

And I personally informed girl guides and nspcc of the 80 page investigation slamming ACs understanding of safeguarding.

You would have to be under a rock to not know. If regular every day women with zero access to funds and armed with just a smart phone and a laptop of the kids get off it know about this then a multi million pound international company should.

They would rather brazen it out and hope people forget about it than use their names and funds to launch an investigation into what's happening.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 23/06/2020 14:07

while I love the Baroness and am increasingly grateful to her because God knows they don't listen to anyone else, it's sickening that ordinary people get fobbed off and scolded for their naughty misinterpretations, yet the Baroness says the exact same thing and gets an immediately admission of fault and definite safeguarding breach actions taken.

Yes. And sitting here increasingly depressed about the difference in responses to John Cleese and JK Rowling. Women & children are bottom of the heap for anyone, unless they're actually someone with as much power and influence as, say, a Baroness.

At best, when women speak up, they are ignored. Then it ratchets up to Karening, at worst there's death threats & rape threats.

For all the desperately well-meaning talk about privilege & power lately, so few people seem to be capable of seeing this absolutely glaring chasm of an imbalance, even though it's lit up in technicolour with flashing red lights and bunting.