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Authors quit JK Rowling's literary agency

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donquixotedelamancha · 22/06/2020 16:22

www.theguardian.com/books/2020/jun/22/authors-quit-jk-rowling-agency-over-transgender-rights

The ever entertaining TRA power couple Fox and Owl were apparently represented by the same agents as the wonderful Ms Rowling.

They, along with some bloke called Drew Davies, have severed ties because the agents refused to issue a public statement slagging off their biggest client.

Being bastions of professionalism they left by telling the guardian.

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CodenameVillanelle · 23/06/2020 11:06

@SerenityNowwwww

Why do they have animal names?
Cos they are super special!
SerenityNowwwww · 23/06/2020 11:03

Why do they have animal names?

Lamahaha · 23/06/2020 11:03

Times comment:
Too bad about Ugla Stefania Kristjonudottir Jonsdottir. On the plus side, the agency will save on ink.

Grin Grin Grin

SophocIestheFox · 23/06/2020 10:57

Kerry and Kurtan

🤣🤣🤣

BaronessSnippyPantsofCroneArmy · 23/06/2020 10:32

7 minute segment on Julia Hartley Brewer Show on JK Rowling and the 'writers' who have left the agency that represent her. Talks to Brendan O'Neil with a comment from Robbie/Bobby? Friedman, a barrister, at the end. Begins 8.54am
Click on 08.30-09.00 segment here:

talkradio.co.uk/radio/listen-again/1592890200#

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 23/06/2020 10:30

How long before Jolyon tells us how he dealt with Hedwig in a kimono as a way of “sending a message” to JK Rowling?

So Agatha Christie. “It was the QC in the kimono with the baseball bat that did it.”

I’m bound to admit the theatrics of the identity politics crowd is making me tired. Do what you want people, but do it quietly, without the fucking melodramatics.

DuDuDuLangaLangaBingBong · 23/06/2020 10:29

I had to look that up

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DickKerrLadies · 23/06/2020 10:27

Kerry and Kurtan

GrinGrin

FloralBunting · 23/06/2020 10:24

DuDuDu, I share your anger at their harmful influence, definitely.

But they are so ridiculous I find it hard to watch a lot of things that involve them without thinking I'm watching a spoof documentary comedy on wokeness, a bit like Kerry and Kurtan on This Country.

PrincessConsuelaVaginaHammock · 23/06/2020 10:24

@Tanith

"Now over 630 comments."

I like this one:

The knowledge that I shall never again be able to read the sublime and insightful literature of Fox Fisher, Drew Davies and Ugla Stefania Kristjonudottir Jonsdottir fills me with indifference.

Me too. I'm struggling to contain mine, it's like it's all spilling out.
DuDuDuLangaLangaBingBong · 23/06/2020 10:20

[quote RoyalCorgi]Let's not forget the time Owl defamed Fair Play for Women in an article in the Independent and the paper had to settle out of court:

twitter.com/fairplaywomen/status/1053033005021847553[/quote]
Oh yeah! That was a good one! Owl was so wrong Owl couldn’t have been wronger.

I guess the number of trans identifying sex offenders incarcerated in British prisons doesn’t support Owl’s arguments for male people using female designated spaces and services ¯\(ツ)/¯

Tanith · 23/06/2020 10:09

"Now over 630 comments."

I like this one:

The knowledge that I shall never again be able to read the sublime and insightful literature of Fox Fisher, Drew Davies and Ugla Stefania Kristjonudottir Jonsdottir fills me with indifference.

NotBadConsidering · 23/06/2020 10:05

This is the other thing this reminds me of. They’ve struck out! Taken a stand! Escaped the shackles of their oppressors! They’ll be congratulated by their limited number of restricted followers for all of 5 minutes. But they’re still in their little bubble. Then it’s a case of:

Authors quit JK Rowling's literary agency
LillianBland · 23/06/2020 10:04

@Lamahaha

Now over 630 comments. The latest one is this:

Fox, Drew and Ugla who?

Sweet and succinct!

Sounds like the start of a Haiku. 😁
Chrestomanci3 · 23/06/2020 10:03

Where do you see the comments on the Times article? I can't see them but am not signed in.

LillianBland · 23/06/2020 10:01

@SerenityNowwwww

I wonder who the 4th one was?
I’m sure someone more skilled than me, will be able to work it out by going through the agent’s twitter threads. If you narrow it down to those who have written some books on trans ‘issues’, the pool gets much smaller. Between that and narrowing it down further to those authors that have gushed on the other numpties twitter threads, then you can probably work it out. I don’t have the twitter knowledge, time or inclination to bother, but I guarantee someone is doing it, as we speak. 😁
RoyalCorgi · 23/06/2020 09:57

Let's not forget the time Owl defamed Fair Play for Women in an article in the Independent and the paper had to settle out of court:

twitter.com/fairplaywomen/status/1053033005021847553

Lamahaha · 23/06/2020 09:55

The agent gets 15% of the author's share of the royalties, not 15% of the total royalties. I bet JKR is on a LOT more than 8%, though.
You're right, my early-morning befuddled brain!

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 23/06/2020 09:48

In addition to all the other issues Fox and Owl are incredibly boring. Why subject children to being preached at by dull, awkward people when they can't even get academic credit for it?

SerenityNowwwww · 23/06/2020 09:47

I wonder who the 4th one was?

Lamahaha · 23/06/2020 09:45

Now over 630 comments. The latest one is this:

Fox, Drew and Ugla who?

Sweet and succinct!

SerenityNowwwww · 23/06/2020 09:42

The two twit-tuwoos spoke at DSs school (a very ‘re-educated’ chap books the speakers) and a trans woman who spoke about the trials of being a woman in business.

Siablue · 23/06/2020 09:39

The Guardian have chosen to present this story on their Instagram ( they do this for very few stories). They have had 2 in the last week bashing JKR. The comments on this one are more in her favour.

Nobody knows who Fox and Owl are. I have had a look at their Instagram and I felt quite a lot of sympathy towards Fox. He did a post about how transitioning had almost completely relieved his gender dysphoria.

Having looked at the book. It would do harm to other young people because it presents transition as the solution. It would be good for young people who are trans to hear their story but they also need to hear the stories of people who decided not to transition. So many trans people are autistic and we do learn about how to act form copying other people so are more likely to go down a path that is not right for us. I would have a lot of sympathy with them if they did not try to silence others.

LillianBland · 23/06/2020 09:29

@wrongsideofhistorymyarse

I wonder if Owl is following this thread?
Why use both hands, when one finger will do? 😉😁
JemimaShore · 23/06/2020 09:26

Oh, also it was one of Owl's ridiculous tweets that led to Jane Clare Jones's wonderful Terf Wars piece.

janeclarejones.com/2018/11/13/the-annals-of-the-terf-wars/