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Queeriods. "How to talk inclusively about periods."

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Lamahaha · 21/06/2020 08:58

I saw this on a Twitter thread of Glinner, in which he said I'd better be careful. I'm extremely drunk and might tweet something like "Women menstruate".

I followed a few of the tweets and found this website :

periodpositive.wordpress.com/

This is where apparently media & menstrual product companies now working from and get the language. All about "inclusive" language. The words "woman", "feminine", "female" are taboo.

Grovelling apologies offered; I would have thought this was satire had I seen it anywhere else:
rubycup.com/blogs/news/we-need-to-apologize

Queeriods. "How to talk inclusively about periods."
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Michelleoftheresistance · 21/06/2020 10:10

The way that 'woman' is being erased like some dirty word akin to the N word, or 'spastic' or something is rather horrifying to be honest.

Cross post Ender and much better put.

When you look at the terms that have become dirty words, it is because they are insulting and derogatory to the person they are applied to. This new and exiting anti-female movement is using the veneer of political correctness but the dirty word does not describe the person they wish to protect. The dirty word is to vanish those people from other people's vocabulary. It's like a toddler pushing aside another child and shouting at you "look at me "

Alongside, with, no one would mind in the slightest. Replacing and erasing? Yeah, you and General Custer can fuck off with that.

Mascotte · 21/06/2020 10:09

I'm feeling really queasy after reading the "word" Queeriods 🤢

NoraEphronsneck · 21/06/2020 10:07

The irony of a 'flow chart' 😬

Michelleoftheresistance · 21/06/2020 10:06

“The automatic association between menstruation and women that almost everybody makes seems impossible to break. Whenever an ad comes up for a menstrual product, it shows young women.”

That would be because more than 99% of those who menstruate, will menstruate or have ever menstruated, have no problem with the knowledge that menstruation only happens to female people, and with calling themselves women.

And inclusion is about adding . Nothing wrong with adding words to labels, adding greater diversity to adverts, but this lobby group don't want inclusion, they want to replace and erase the core group as if they are the only ones who exist, menstruate and matter. And who want to turn the words woman and female into some kind of dirty secret no one may mention.

And there, in a nutshell, you have almost all the issues with this political movement. Which less wins hearts, minds and sympathies of those they're trampling all over than an increasingly resounding get your stomping great feet off my boundaries.

Enderthedragon · 21/06/2020 10:05

Thing is, I went for about a year without a period because of medical treatment I was having, so I 'didn't have periods' but I still think I considered myself a 'menstruator' because my menstrual cycle was there, it had just been halted. Same when I was pregnant.

So actually I find the 'doesn't have periods = non-menstruator' highly offensive and demand that they change this immediately to make it more inclusive of MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

The way that 'woman' is being erased like some dirty word akin to the N word, or 'spastic' or something is rather horrifying to be honest.

donquixotedelamancha · 21/06/2020 10:02

I don't hear blind people objecting to the words "see" or "sight" or throwing tantrums when we use phrases like "use your eyes" or "shouda gone to Specsavers".

No you don't, but I have seen identitarians doing this.

I remember Lily Madigan saying something along the lines of 'are you blind' and being pulled up for being ablist. Madigan replied that she identified as being partially sighted and so wasn't being ablist.

And there is the wonderful example of replacing applause with jazz hands.

Enderthedragon · 21/06/2020 10:00

Queeriods?

I'm done.

LillianBland · 21/06/2020 09:57

@dancinfeet

how long before we have to refer to everyone as those who menstruate, and those who ejaculate? Imagine that on a christmas card (!)
You’ll never have to refer to men as “people who ejaculate“ because it is males and just a handful of confused females who are dictating how each sex is referred to. They wouldn’t dare tell men how to refer to themselves.
Lamahaha · 21/06/2020 09:56

@FlamingoAndJohn

Some of the language on the chart I’m not so bothered by to be honest. But you can fuck of with replacing Women with People. And with menstruator and non menstruator.
Yes, some of it is OK, such as "starting puberty" and "menstrual products".

But the very premise is so, so dishonest. Why on earth should we -- all of us, not just women - change our correct language just for the hurt feelings of the tiniest minority?

I don't hear blind people objecting to the words "see" or "sight" or throwing tantrums when we use phrases like "use your eyes" or "shouda gone to Specsavers".

There is more I'd say about the inability to deal with objective reality and weaponising hurt feelings but it would get me banned. Does nobody know that it's possible to get over hurt feelings and even use them as a stepping stone for inner growth?
I think I am a much stronger person BECAUSE of the racism I had to deal with in my youth. I never went crying to the media.

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MrsWednesdayteatime · 21/06/2020 09:53

Why isn't there a massive push to get sanitary product bins /dispensers into ALL men's toilets ... You'know if men menstruate too? Why aren't men asked to give up space and resources to include people who identify as transmen

And why didn't any headlines talk about Covid19 effecting older people with testicles? Why was the exclusionary word "man" used when not all people who identify as men will have the male biology that seems to put them at higher risk?

dancinfeet · 21/06/2020 09:52

how long before we have to refer to everyone as those who menstruate, and those who ejaculate? Imagine that on a christmas card (!)

Soubriquet · 21/06/2020 09:47

But how do you know those elderly men don’t identify with being a young woman?

I mean...god could you be any more ageist/sexist

HmmGrin

PumbaasCucumbas · 21/06/2020 09:45

....elderly gentlemen on the clear blue advert, dogs advertising cat litter and babies advertising car insurance

SarahTancredi · 21/06/2020 09:43

Oh ffs I just bought a ruby cup because I loved the fact that they donate one to girls in Kenya to help keep them in school.

How are cups not even safe now. Ffs

FlamingoAndJohn · 21/06/2020 09:40

Whenever an ad comes up for a menstrual product, it shows young women

I demand that adverts for Lynx, viagra and Gillette start using women.

FlamingoAndJohn · 21/06/2020 09:38

Some of the language on the chart I’m not so bothered by to be honest.
But you can fuck of with replacing Women with People. And with menstruator and non menstruator.

ErrolTheDragon · 21/06/2020 09:37

Does that mean Mother’s Day will change to menstruators with children’s day?!

Remind your kids, they need to amend their cards today to 'Happy non-menstruating parents' day'
...nope... that won't do, it might not be inclusive of Freddie the birth certificate law suit person. Damn. OTOH, it would mean both DH and I would be entitled to a lie in nowadays....We need to get this one sorted out urgently don't we?

TheSingingKettle49 · 21/06/2020 09:36

So many questions....

Why are they trying to erase women?

If you identify as a man why would you even take part in a survey about periods anyway?

If you’re taking part in a survey about periods and you have a period then you are a woman, you know you’re a woman, you’re just not comfortable being a woman, so why do you think everyone else should change their language to make you more comfortable rather than you accepting the facts?

How do you think it makes women who can’t menstruate for medical reasons seeing themselves separated from ‘normal’ (sorry, not the best way to phrase it I’m sure) women?

Soubriquet · 21/06/2020 09:33

If they start showing trans men and saying their product is for men too, i will not be impressed

Luckily I already use reusables and not disposables, but when dd is old enough to buy some, I would like to point her in the direction of ones who recognise and support WOMEN

Lamahaha · 21/06/2020 09:29

“The automatic association between menstruation and women that almost everybody makes seems impossible to break. Whenever an ad comes up for a menstrual product, it shows young women.”

Jesus truly wept.

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Winesalot · 21/06/2020 09:28

That link to rubycups is ridiculous. It really shows confused logic. For a start, they allow the conflation of sex and gender. Now they have to twist their thinking to reflect this ill conceived stance of allowing people to deny that biology that we are told isn’t happening. The example message they used as an explanation was someone who thinks that they are more male than female. Therefore they are following the sex on a spectrum theory based the proven sex is binary facts.

This language really needs to be sorted. And I think that the expectation of dehumanizing the majority of the sex to be inclusive needs to be viewed that there may well be a larger section of the population being excluded due to real language barriers. What 12 year old knows they are menstruators?

nauticant · 21/06/2020 09:27

Qollocks.

BaronessBrighterThanYou · 21/06/2020 09:25

A flow chart for periods?

It's a (rubbish) joke surely?

LillianBland · 21/06/2020 09:18

I think it’s a very helpful post, because women now know which company to avoid. Go woke, go broke.

Soubriquet · 21/06/2020 09:18

What is so fucking offensive about being a fucking woman these days?!!

I mean seriously.

We can’t even use mothers and daughters?!

Does that mean Mother’s Day will change to menstruators with children’s day?!

Imagine that in a card