Queeriods. "How to talk inclusively about periods."

I just see over-dressed areseholes with connections to the bbc elite or the Freud family prancing around in expensive dungarees on Instagram saying ‘fight for women’ and billions climb on.

I think this is one of the oddest paragraphs I've ever seen on FWR.

So what about trans-men?

As this is all supposedly about being scrupulously fair, considerate and non-biased yo the extent of denying our own physical identity, then we shouldn't presume that a 'man' has a penis?

So 'man' becomes 'person with a penis', etc.

For once I'm not being facetious, either.

Head... desk... thunk.

I wasn't assigned female at birth, the midwife took a look, saw my vulva, said "congratulations, she is a girl."

That's how it goes for 99.9% of the population, barring a tiny, tiny minority of people with DSDs who may have ambiguous genitalia.

Some people may grow up deeply unhappy at being the sex they were born into, and that's very sad. Some of those people may feel it is more comfortable for them to live according to the arbitrary sex-stereotypes their culture associates with the opposite sex, and that is fine - more power to their elbow if it makes them happier, more fulfilled and more productive.

But nobody gets "assigned" a sex at birth. The midwives don't pop a fucking sorting hat on the baby's head which goes "Mmm, possible interest in trains in your future, but also interest in fashion and home baking... no, wait a minute, pink sparkles... this one gets sorted into Slytherin womanhood."

Floisme Chella did her MSc into the history and politics of menstruation there.
Thanks vivarium. I assume the MSc didn't cover the biology of menstruation!

U2 most people who menstruate were assigned female at birth and identify as female, and some menstruators identify as non-binary or as trans men

What the fuck is this? I have yet to meet somebody who was not recorded as female at birth who menstruates. I don't want this rubbish taught in schools (it's from the section of their webpage for schools).

Being #periodpositive is about inclusion and visibility for everyone who menstruates

and this..it's all bollocks. Why not just say for women? That covers it, whether they are women who are yet menstruate, no longer menstruate or women who never have for whatever reason.

Menstruation management

embarrassingly trendy faux-insta- feminism bothers me, that’s exactly the point.

Beware the insta-plopper, who has not done its research, and which has no idea of the background to any of the discussions.

Oh you naughty little wimmins, you don't know how to wimmin right.

OH FOR FFS. REALLY?!!!
sorry for the caps. I'm menstruating

Sigh.

Another poster who seems to hold the view that women can only worry about one thing at once. Must be our tiny lady brains.

Anyway, my response to all of this "Queeriod" shite is to channel Magdalen Burns and just shout "Fuck off, you wankers."

(After all, how do you explain why menstruation is seen as so unclean that women are forced into freezing "menstruation huts" if you can't talk about cultures which systematically use entrenched male power to oppress women.)

Floisme Chella did her MSc into the history and politics of menstruation there.

Last time I saw her she was looking at doing a PhD.

I've met Chella as well, AnotherLass.

Chella was spouting menstruator nonsense in schools 7 years ago when I met her. She may well be "menstruator zero".

So you make a point of coming to a feminist board, on a majority women’s website, with a clearly headed thread, to scold people for discussing the feminist issue outlined on the aforementioned thread?

Maybe I should go on an animal welfare website - say a rescue charity that brings dogs in from Greece - and tell them they are misguided and obsessive because they’re not campaigning on the rights of refugee children in the Greek refugee camps. My personal view is the humans are more important but I’m not going to be an arsehole to the kind folk trying to help the animals.

If I want to help the refugees I should campaign/fundraise about that, not co-opt the efforts of the animal welfare people. Here’s a crazy thought, I could actually try to help both?

Another example of the worthy cause/oppression olympics. Like telling the suffragettes that there’s a war on. Or saying that period poverty isn’t an issue because some people use food banks.

And it’s so right on, women’s issues, women’s safety, women’s health, yet none of you Seem to care about this come a general Election.

How the fuck do you know what I care about during elections?

I don’t care about how other people identify or what they do with their bodies.
I care about the removal of women, as can be seen from that list.

Ah it’s the ‘wrong kind of feminism?’ I understand. You lecture us on the right kind of feminism. We’re all ears.

Feminism matters to me, I guess I was holding that in for a while 😁

embarrassingly trendy faux-insta- feminism bothers me, that’s exactly the point.

It shits on feminism. Sadly.

Sorry if that brings out my inner Holden caulfield but Christ I’m done with the hypocrisy .

Then post about the issues that matter to you.

You'll find also find products for men on the 'Feminine Hygiene' aisle - incontinence pads, for example. And you find products used by people of all ages on the 'Nappies and Babycare' aisle.

But there's nothing particularly feminine about periods. They are female processes, pure and simple. No need to hide behind the euphemism of 'feminine', no need to pretend that they are filthy and shameful.

It’s interesting how some topics become a buzz on here. Guaranteed to get a high post response, always.

Honestly, whilst I can sympathise and agree with many issues in these areas I am alarmed by how many people are so unhealthily obsessed with what other people do with or identify with about their bodies.

And it’s so right on, women’s issues, women’s safety, women’s health, yet none of you Seem to care about this come a general Election.

It is continuously trending to be seen as on the button with women’s issues, but not to give two fucks about poverty, slave labour, trafficking, bedroom tax, animal welfare, fascism (unless it impacts women), young people’s future, climate change, etc.

I just see over-dressed areseholes with connections to the bbc elite or the Freud family prancing around in expensive dungarees on Instagram saying ‘fight for women’ and billions climb on.

It’s so fucking fake and embarrassing.

Sorry if that brings out my inner Holden caulfield but Christ I’m done with the hypocrisy .

Incidentally I still owe a major vote of thanks to Always for getting me into reusable san wear

Cheers guys. That's a good few quid a month I'm saving because of you.

Thing is, they will soon realise that the people who actually need and buy the products will roll their eyes and walk away. Because being lectured about erase yourself better very quickly gets unbelievably tedious when it's rammed down your throat on a daily basis.

Pissed off people don't spend money.

Well there is a tena man so it might be able to remain...but who knows.

Besides it's not like men are routinely stopped by security in Tesco and refused sale of tampons is it. Any more than I would be stopped from buying a mens razor.

Mind you they did come for man size tissues. .

Are any of the groups campaigning that Tena Lady change their packaging to ‘persons who leak urine’ or are we okay to keep that particular issue as no one else feels like cherry picking it?

Fair point!

Thing is surely in supermarkets the feminine hygiene aisle containes things like panty liners and intimate washes /wipes ( the implication of need for which is a other thread entirely )and incontinence pads etc which arent actually specifically for menstruation. So feminine hygiene covers all that when menstruation products wouldnt. So the phrase may work in say schools and biology classes when you are talking about periods/womens reproductive systems, but it wouldnt work in a supermarket

I think menstrual products is okay (feminine hygiene products always seems a bit euphemistically coy to me)

But for pretty much all of the rest!!!!