the fox killers latest tweets

As other posters have said adult women are deemed incapable of consent to sterilisation. Why is a specific group of teenagers deemed capable of consent to sterilisation? That’s the parallel and it is not equal.

Mentioning abortion is using dead cat strategy. There are existing protocols for discussing and preserving future fertility for children who require life saving treatments. Are they used when prescribing blockers and cross sex hormones?

It is why they push the suicide narrative so much and don't like it when it is debunked as it removes this lesser harm argument. "better a live son than a dead daughter " argument

This is exactly it - for example, the pill we know has side effects, some of them potentially serious, but it's a lot less dangerous than pregnancy for most women. If a woman is older, more overweight, or smokes, then that balance of risk changes, and doctors feel that the pill is too dangerous to prescribe and they are encouraged to use other methods of contraception.

Puberty blockers are so dangerous, that the only way they can tilt the balance of risk to them is by saying the alternative is death.

Just look at the other uses for them, only used in the most absolutely serious of cases, where the condition being treated is considered worse than the puberty blockers.

It's horrific. Downplaying the side effects of the blockers, up-playing the risks of self-harm and suicide. Completely against all ethical standards.

I doubt very much if Maugham cares about whether what he's tweeting is true or not. Obviously there's a massive difference between preventing a pre-pubertal child taking harmful, off-label puberty blockers and allowing an adolescent girl to have an abortion that is, as PPs have said, likely to save her from the physical harm and mental trauma involved in carrying and birthing a child.

No, as far as Maugham is concerned, this is just a handy stick with which to beat feminists. I think it's unfortunate that feminist campaigns have engaged a Christian anti-abortion lawyer to act for them when they could have chosen a feminist lawyer. The TRAs will use it to "prove" that feminists are in league with right-wing evangelicals in the US. This is something that Fair Cop and the rest could have seen coming.

I mean, I am not a lawyer or nuffink, just a woman who has checked her privilege a lot the last week after bring told to, and found it does include free speech and a vote after all, phew!!!

I don't have any sophisticated legal training, but forgive me, Self ID is not law yet, is it? So it is much easier to challenge the legal principles behind legislation that has not yet been made law?

And the right to an abortion IS law, yes? So a much harder battle to have the law abolished? Though maybe not much harder considering the state of women's rights at the moment....

A 15 year old being made to give birth could ruin / injure her body terribly. An abortion is by far the lesser of the two options.

It's the same argument for surrogacy - as if what the surrogate mother does is not that much, completely playing down the risks to her health /life

I think the TRA argument is that puberty blockers etc is a lesser harm than potential suicide as though those are the only two options.
It is why they push the suicide narrative so much and don't like it when it is debunked as it removes this lesser harm argument. "better a live son than a dead daughter " argument

Why is he so vocal about this?

He has realised that he can be mean to women - he doesn't like women.

These men get to be beloved of the woke bros but actually hate or simply just ignore women. We are nothing to them but a receptacle for the sex they want. And if we’re not that then we’re nothing.

A lot of misogynistic men have a problem with abortion

Christopher Hitchens was one such.

If science ever conclusively demonstrates that abortion is likely to cause infertility, sexual dysfunction, impairment of brain development and a high risk of cancer, stroke and other serious illnesses then yes, women should be told that.

The fox killer is so desperate to make up for his 'error' in giving money to a women's rights campaign that he's willing to sell his soul and spout any and all absurdities to prove he knows the error of his ways. It's pitiful and embrarassing to see an educated and intelligent person degrade himself in this way.

how has he managed to become a QC?

Because he is very capable in a narrow skill set. This got him into a highly privileged world. This is where his narrow capabiliies failed him. He assumed that being in that world made him clever about everything. He fails this test: The more I learn, the more I realize how much I don't know.

It's strange that Maugham doesn't know that it's established in law that many things a person can consent to are yet considered illegal if they cause injury. Does he really not know this?

A lot of misogynistic men have a problem with abortion and at the same time are completely ignorant of the risks of pregnancy.
They see women as ''made for the task'', and can't grasp that an underage girls body is not ready to gestate and give birth, even if she is able to ovulate and menstruate.
I've literally had men argue 'but she's old enough to have periods' as an argument against abortion even for children.

If a girl is too young to consent to sex, she is too young to have a baby.

With this level of thinking, how has he managed to become a QC?

He hates women and girls. He will use anything to attack us and our rights.

He isn’t even original in his pathetic threats - the America TRAs have been spouting the “omg if you’re saying children shouldn’t be able to consent to mutilation that means the republicans will make abortion illegal” line for a long time

You do wonder how some people have survived to the age they are, nevermind enter respected professions.

Paul who? The fox killer can fuck right off with the "nice abortion rights you have there, would be a shame if we had to take them away as punishment for your insubordination" shit.

Giving up your sex life, having a double mastectomy and giving up your future fertility ? Over my dead body would I allow my teenager to go through that

Also shows that they really do just think sex is a dick in a hole. Fuck whether that causes pain because they arent developed or have taken drugs which mean orgasm is painful. Fuck even having the mental capacity to consent .

The idea of a mutually fulfilling sex life for reasons other than re producing is clearly beyond them.

Totally demonstrating his lack of knowledge or empathy for woman and girls. Almost all women and girls who go through abortion do not regret it. That’s why it’s women who campaign for abortion. They know it is almost always a positive in the long run even if it’s bars in the short run (and yes I’ve had one)

Giving up your sex life, having a double mastectomy and giving up your future fertility ? Over my dead body would I allow my teenager to go through that. But if she fell pregnant and strongly strongly encourage her to have an abortion.

Jolyon you are so ignorant of women it’s shocking.

This is great. He looks a right tit coming out with such nonsense.

I bet he is having to block loads of people today who had not previously publicly commented on this kind of nonsense.

More people hitting peak trans by the minute.

I do hope he tweets more such nonsense.

Well it's not comparable is it.

A better comparison would have been comparing it to the rights of women to be sterilised as and when they wished for whatever reason and him threatening that right might be withdrawn.

Except he can't do that can he because women are already regularly denied the option of being sterilised 'in case they want another child in the future' etc.

I wonder how we have got to the point where more people are fighting for the right to sterilise children than there are for the rights of women not to have unwanted pregnancies.

*too young

Surely any court case actually trying to make that argument against abortion would fall apart on day one, because having a baby is so obviously a more life-long, life-changing decision than having an abortion. I say this as someone who has had both an abortion and a baby. I mean it's just so stupid.

Young adult women are routinely refused sterilisation if requested - because they are deemed to young and will change their mind about infertility.

This has no bearing on abortion rights. What’s the difference?

JM is beneath contempt. Why is he so vocal about this?

Anything to hide JM?