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Bunbury's guide to community disruptors part 5

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ItsLateHumpty · 20/06/2020 15:04

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

Remember our monitors would like to silence us by fair means or foul.

This is a continuation of the Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3691023-Bunburys-guide-to-community-disruptors-part-4

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging. AS is your friend.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted.. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we always have community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the ‘Break it Down for me’ and ‘It never happens’ threads but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

Go well Witches Gin

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BlackWaveComing · 27/08/2020 11:46

Yes please!

OhHolyJesus · 27/08/2020 11:17

Should I share a link to the audio from the midnight conference here?

ItsLateHumpty · 27/08/2020 00:16

Cheers both - maybe it’s just me it’s disappeared for 😜

I’ve started a thread in site stuff, because even after your posts it still wasn’t showing in FWR ?!

I’m on the website.

Appreciate the help Smile

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ErrolTheDragon · 27/08/2020 00:11

Threads I'm on etc do sometimes not seem to work right, I don't think there's anything particularly unusual about that.

Butterer · 27/08/2020 00:05

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Butterer · 27/08/2020 00:02

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ItsLateHumpty · 27/08/2020 00:00

Hmm this thread isn’t even appearing in active FWR threads - my last post @ 23.45 should have put this thread back near the top of FWR and as you can see from the screenshot it’s not....

Is this the new deletion - just disappear us?

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ItsLateHumpty · 26/08/2020 23:45

Opps Blush thanks OldCrone I’ll go search now.

By the by, this thread no longer appears on my ‘I started’ list or ‘I’m on’ list. I also checked ‘watching‘ just in case but nothing.
I followed a link from an email.

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lionheart · 26/08/2020 23:06

I couldn't work out the time difference. Blush

fatblackcatspaw · 26/08/2020 22:57

the seminar which must not be named is happening at midnight and a bunch of women are signed up for it and someone is hoping to live tweet the non existant seminar on twitter.. I have cheese chocolate to get me though

lionheart · 26/08/2020 22:38

I think I posted the original S T* link because I thought it looked interesting and people might like to register and listen in for themselves. The thread was deleted because as a couple of posters pointed out, anyone who registered wold be wise to do it with an untraceable email address (for extra security).

I reported it to mumsnet to ask that they remove the link but the thread itself was deleted.

If anyone did manage to listen in it would be great to have a summary.

littlbrowndog · 26/08/2020 22:13

Yea( florres

FloresTorres · 26/08/2020 21:02

FWR thread about a civil servant.
Now mirrored in AIBU, but with a totally different spin on the brave chap who appears to have much support.
Not the only thread started in FWR, that's turned into something very different on another board.
Unrelated, but while I'm here,
Today, I read an interesting piece, elsewhere, about Chairman Mao's political tactics. It reminded me of something I once read regarding Stalin and followers re: Deep Entryism and political realignment.

OldCrone · 26/08/2020 17:32

ItsLateHumpty
When I said to search, I meant an internet search, not a search on MN. You probably won't get the MN threads in the results because they've been deleted, but the first hit for me was the event at Stanford tonight which was the subject of the deleted threads.

ItsLateHumpty · 26/08/2020 15:33

Reminder - if you want to ask MN a Qs about deletions

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/4002092-FWR-clarification-deletion-and-strikes?

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DaisiesandButtercups · 26/08/2020 15:28

The Stanford thread looked really interesting! I am sure that someone somewhere will report back on it. It is very curious, the industrial complex aspect of it in particular. The Stanford University website has the details of the event for anyone interested although it didn’t shed a lot of light on their ideas for me. It wasn’t in the spirit of mumsnet according to the information I have.

fatblackcatspaw · 26/08/2020 15:26

A few weeks....

nachthexe · 26/08/2020 15:24

@fatblackcatspaw

oh I didn't realise that was a mumsnet crime....
New here? Shock
ItsLateHumpty · 26/08/2020 14:56

Cheers OldCrone but unless you are on a thread, it’s memory holed when deleted, so I’m pretty sure if I searched MN it would just come back 0 results. Google might show a cache but no details.

Re your convo re TAAT, I’m not sure which one(s) you’re talking about, but def on FWR there’s a trigger finger hence me trying to head off at the pass posts on this thread on the 22nd. It’s a shit show.

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fatblackcatspaw · 26/08/2020 14:38

oh I didn't realise that was a mumsnet crime....

OldCrone · 26/08/2020 14:35

Thread about a thread.

fatblackcatspaw · 26/08/2020 14:35

TAAT?

OldCrone · 26/08/2020 14:34

If you want to know what the threads were about a search for 'Stanford' and 'T**F' (banned word) should find it.

OldCrone · 26/08/2020 14:31

Second one was deleted because it was a TAAT. So does that mean that we're not allowed to discuss this event at all because any thread will now be considered a TAAT?

fatblackcatspaw · 26/08/2020 14:27

first one against spirit of mumset... second one nothing - about stanford seminar tonight no screenshots beyond my feeble tech capablities

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