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Bunbury's guide to community disruptors part 5

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ItsLateHumpty · 20/06/2020 15:04

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

Remember our monitors would like to silence us by fair means or foul.

This is a continuation of the Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3691023-Bunburys-guide-to-community-disruptors-part-4

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging. AS is your friend.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted.. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we always have community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the ‘Break it Down for me’ and ‘It never happens’ threads but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

Go well Witches Gin

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Al1Langdownthecleghole · 05/07/2020 13:16

@Arborea

If anyone manages to get the Rules of Misogyny on a tea towel please will you advertise them (ideally in a separate thread)? I would love to acquire a good half dozen or so Grin
Yep. Me too.
NeurotrashWarrior · 05/07/2020 13:16

Lol, that thread might end up on the break it down for me thread "exploring the term hate.." Grin

NeurotrashWarrior · 05/07/2020 13:13

interesting new gambit!

Always the risk of generating screenshots I guess.

NeurotrashWarrior · 05/07/2020 13:12

Found it and posted. It never comes up in a search on mn app btw...

PurpleCrowbarWhereIsLangCleg · 05/07/2020 13:05

Yes, but new 'why so hateful?!' OP does seem to have done a remarkably quick reverse to 'oh well if you put it like that, yikes, I see the problems'

Either super naive - lots of people are I guess - or an interesting new gambit!

VickyEadieofThigh · 05/07/2020 13:05

Any post like that needs the break it down for me thread posted immediately and left alone tbh.

I agree. Just post it and leave well alone.

NeurotrashWarrior · 05/07/2020 13:03

I can't find the actual thread to post, plus it's moving so very fast!

NeurotrashWarrior · 05/07/2020 13:03

Any post like that needs the break it down for me thread posted immediately and left alone tbh.

I think they're posting in good faith actually but it's better letting them work it out for themselves. The hardwiring to be kind runs deep.

VickyEadieofThigh · 05/07/2020 12:52

That word 'hate' does a staggering amount of heavy lifting these days.

When did it get its meaning changed to 'not entirely agreeing with the demands of activists'?

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 05/07/2020 12:47

Leeds Spinners.

I'm a huge admirer of their craftivism.

In other news - somebody who's ostensibly a new poster with a brand new thread about 'hate' seems to have quite a familiar posting style but I can't quite put my finger on it. I may be mistaken.

ItsLateHumpty · 05/07/2020 12:36

They’re coming in hot atm, sunshine must be bright out at the moment.

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VickyEadieofThigh · 05/07/2020 12:34

As long as everyone knows it's a goady thread, doesn't rise to the bait and posts in a sensible manner, we're fine. But just in case...

Bunbury's guide to community disruptors part 5
growinggreyer · 05/07/2020 12:31

It can be productive to respond while actually posting for the benefit of lurkers

Yes, I have read so many of these threads that when I was asked to defend my beliefs in real life (a story for another day, perhaps) I was able to talk for about 20 minutes, pretty calmly and give real life examples to back up my position. Thank you to all who have patiently educated on this forum. It is appreciated. Flowers

nauticant · 05/07/2020 12:27

I'm not so sure. I wouldn't like a post like that to remain completely unchallenged, and attract a number of confirming posts about how the OP is so right about the hate. It can be productive to respond while actually posting for the benefit of lurkers.

NotBadConsidering · 05/07/2020 12:06

Sigh. Come on people, just let it sink.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 05/07/2020 12:01

Hm. Murcan teenager, I'd put money on it. And - cba today.

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 05/07/2020 11:41

🚩🚩🚩
I was so tempted, but what’s the point. And my temper is uncertain lately.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 04/07/2020 21:32

It'd be lovely to do a quilted version of the Rules of Misogyny a la the Leeds Spinners. I wish I had the skillz.

Arborea · 04/07/2020 21:24

If anyone manages to get the Rules of Misogyny on a tea towel please will you advertise them (ideally in a separate thread)? I would love to acquire a good half dozen or so Grin

Michelleoftheresistance · 04/07/2020 20:38

Welcome to the Saturday night fishing expeditions....

Cascade220 · 03/07/2020 15:43

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nauticant · 03/07/2020 15:20

Please tell me about disagreements in the GC community because I've heard some of those involved are "racist/homophobe"

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/07/2020 01:07

I give you the Grey Rock Pom bear!

GrinWine

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 02/07/2020 23:47

Perfect! Rrrrrrrrrrelease the PomBear!

Cascade220 · 02/07/2020 22:14

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