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Bunbury's guide to community disruptors part 5

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ItsLateHumpty · 20/06/2020 15:04

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

Remember our monitors would like to silence us by fair means or foul.

This is a continuation of the Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3691023-Bunburys-guide-to-community-disruptors-part-4

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging. AS is your friend.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted.. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we always have community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the ‘Break it Down for me’ and ‘It never happens’ threads but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

Go well Witches Gin

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RufustheRowlingReindeer · 25/07/2020 21:48

Some posters are fucking lucky i dont like the little shit emoji

Id literally be shitting all over some of these threads

Should be grateful its only a biscuit...

(And if i sound tetchy its because dh has just put ralph breaks the internet on...because he likes the princess scenes)

RufustheRowlingReindeer · 25/07/2020 21:46

I like garabaldi

Plus the biscuit means no comment

People literally put a biscuit to say no comment

What is the point of MNHQ giving you something that means no comment if they don’t intend for it to be used as no comment

Cant be tone...no tone to a biscuit. Or does it matter what board its on, would a biscuit on aibu be ok but not on the dog house...unless its a dog biscuit obviously

I’ll tell you what I’ll do...if i want to say no comment I’ll pop a glass of wine on instead

Cant be a fucking tone with a glass of wine surely

DianasLasso · 25/07/2020 21:43

And white the front step. Don't forget that.

My Great Aunt - lovely woman - had a carpet runner to protect the carpet, then one of those transparent plastic runners on top of that to protect the extra carpet, then (if she had workmen in) newspaper on top of the plastic runner. God love her!

BluebonicPlague · 25/07/2020 21:43

@DianasLasso

Was it one of those really evil ones with raisins in and a kind of shiny outer coat? (Just googled - what I was thinking of apparently is a Garibaldi biscuit. If it was a Garibaldi, definitely deletion worthy. They are rank. All in favour of cancel-Garibaldi-culture.)
Heh. MN should have squashed fly biscuits as one of the emojis. Grin
DialSquare · 25/07/2020 21:41

Was it a biscuit that identified as a cake? A Jaffa cake?

BluebonicPlague · 25/07/2020 21:40

We have to sweep the doorstep and primp the cushions here because we have visitors. Over on AIBU it's usually just the wimmins females fishwiving at each other so no one else is going to be upset.

DianasLasso · 25/07/2020 21:38

Was it one of those really evil ones with raisins in and a kind of shiny outer coat? (Just googled - what I was thinking of apparently is a Garibaldi biscuit. If it was a Garibaldi, definitely deletion worthy. They are rank. All in favour of cancel-Garibaldi-culture.)

BluebonicPlague · 25/07/2020 21:36

@wellbehavedwomen

How is giving someone a biscuit deletable?! That would mean loads of AIBUs were Swiss cheese, surely. Did you give it especially scathingly - suggest they deserved only a Garibaldi, or something?
Nope. I just left a biscuit, no comment at all. But it was on here, not on AIBU. We have to be naice on here apparently.
wellbehavedwomen · 25/07/2020 21:30

How is giving someone a biscuit deletable?! That would mean loads of AIBUs were Swiss cheese, surely. Did you give it especially scathingly - suggest they deserved only a Garibaldi, or something?

wellbehavedwomen · 25/07/2020 21:28

Ah, okay, thank you. So for all I know, I leave a trail of deletions in my wake. Grin

Does seem odd, bothering to get old stuff deleted Why spend time reading old threads, when they're only going to piss you off?

BluebonicPlague · 25/07/2020 21:28

Do you get notified if you have a strike? I had a post deleted for breaching guidelines when someone posted a daft, apparently goady, question on FWR about whether they had to have long hair and I gave them a biscuit. I'd never have known if I hadn't been back on the thread. Ages ago, and still a bit gobsmacked tbh. I moaned about it on Bunbury at the time. But a deletion isn't the same as a strke, is it, which I assume is more by way of official warning. What do they tell you, exactly, or is it just vague 'breach of the guidelines'? I am coming sooo close to saying something more than customarily sarcastic about this monitoring and #benice censorship.

And does MN keep track of name changes? I suppose they must do.

madwoman1ntheattic · 25/07/2020 21:17

They emailed me this time. Have had other deletions and not received emails, so I assume they only email if they are counting it as a ‘strike’. It is a very odd way to spend a weekend though Grin

RufustheRowlingReindeer · 25/07/2020 21:13

What sort of a boring pointless life must someone have to trawl through old mumsnet threads

Seriously 😳

I get bored on some existing long mumsnet threads!

I would suggest some other things to do but last time i suggested that a poster got quite ‘testerical’ i think is the phrase and totally threw their toys out of the pram...so I won’t

wellbehavedwomen · 25/07/2020 21:13

@Michelleoftheresistance how do you know, if you have something deleted? I genuinely don't have a clue if I have or not. Do they email you?

Michelleoftheresistance · 25/07/2020 21:02

Also to mention, I've had a deletion and strike today on a historical thread, so someone is obviously trawling. I have no idea why the post breached guidelines or was worth a strike, I have asked. It was truthful and made no generalisations.

Deliriumoftheendless · 25/07/2020 20:54

Thank you, I don’t really look at AIBU so I was totally confused 😂.

Michelleoftheresistance · 25/07/2020 20:50

Crosspost with Endo , sorry.

Michelleoftheresistance · 25/07/2020 20:49

A wonderful thread years ago in which a MNetter asked her toddler daughter, who was holding forth with passion about wanting a pear right now, did she want her pear whole or cut up. And the toddler said "cutted up". So the MNetter duly presented the toddler with the cutted up pear and the toddler went berserk with rage that the pear had been so cutted up as commanded. Twas extremely funny.

EndoplasmicReticulum · 25/07/2020 20:49

In this case it just means a pear which has been cutted up.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/mumsnet_classics/1301196-If-my-3yo-had-access-to-AIBU

Deliriumoftheendless · 25/07/2020 20:44

Sorry- not really relevant to this thread but I don’t want to interject on the one it’s on but what does “cutted up pear” mean?

wellbehavedwomen · 25/07/2020 17:21

Well, quite.

Advanced Search is a really useful thing.

DianasLasso · 25/07/2020 16:48

Ah, good the thread's already been bumped... Just popping on to say "beware threads which may have been started for screen grabs/ by an agent provocateur wanting to stir trouble." And if in doubt, advance-search the OP. The results can often be quite eye-opening (and not in a good way).

madwoman1ntheattic · 25/07/2020 16:46

I got a strike this week as well, so someone has been rattling cages again. I emailed and asked which bit wasn’t appropriate as it was part of the discussion around MB’s ‘woman’ book. 🤷‍♀️ I think Shon is one of our monitors. 😂

OldCrone · 24/07/2020 10:09

So does the timer on the "strike" start from now or from when it was posted?

I asked MNHQ this:
"Is the six-week period counted from the date of the post or the date of the strike?"

This is the reply I got from MNHQ:

"The date would run from the date we mailed you - so, today. Posts you made prior to today would not be counted as a strike if they're reported to us and are deleted for breaking guidelines."

So apparently you can get your first strike for a post made at any time in the past, but further strikes will only be applied to new posts made after they tell you about the first strike.

RufustheRowlingReindeer · 24/07/2020 10:08

I’m going to get dressed...and maybe open some curtains

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