Be an ally to lesbians: stop using LGBTQ+

Most of the lesbians I know are definitely not ok with being subsumed into the alphabet soup! Many of us resisted when Stonewall adopted the T etc. We believed our concerns would be diluted and or voices silenced. Little did we know how true that was and that we'd become the target for the vitriol of trans activists. Stonewall does not speak for me, or most of my friends.

Ah ok now it makes sense! Thanks for that. I admit to skimming and commenting based on a complete misunderstanding!

The mother is asked about blood types. If you're RhD negative and your baby turns out to be positive you need an anti D shot after the birth, so it's recorded on your notes.
Your partner's blood type however, is completely and utterly irrelevant.
No way was Sapphos asked that question. It's as meaningless in the mother's medical notes as her partner's car reg. number.

(Anyway this is getting waaay off on a tangent)

To get back to the discussion topic, if anyone does come across the comment relating to roller derby and male participants I described above, please do let me know where it is. It will have been in a recent thread, maybe the last couple of weeks. Thanks!

*could have.

It’s also possible that I’m getting confused and thinking about my first pregnancy during which I was resident in Denmark. I have such a shit memory...

Apologies what I meant is it might not be discussed with every mother but it will certainly be discussed where there is reason to. Although tbf I always ask lots of questions of medical practitioners as that’s just my nature, so for all I know I would have initiated the conversation myself.

Some mothers definitely will be asked about blood types. It depends on previous medical history/pregnancies iirc. I definitely remember a discussion in my second pregnancy although it was a very long time ago so I can’t recall details.

Mothers will not just be asked, their blood groups will be sighted and placed in the notes and rechecked if necessary, if the results aren’t immediately accessible. It’s hugely important in cause there’s a maternal/fetal set-up for haemolysis.

Any rhesus negative mother’s baby will have cord blood taken at birth. What the male partner says or thinks his blood group is is irrelevant, it’s too important not to be checked. I agree that Sapphos is making stuff up.

Sorry I just saw it again - it was actually the trans flat (with a black fist) then the pride flag. No Juneteenth flag at all.

I've just been reading the Twitter response to this.

The ruthless and shameless appropriation by TRAs and thick-as-mince 'supporters' bulldozes its way onward.

Some mothers definitely will be asked about blood types. It depends on previous medical history/pregnancies iirc. I definitely remember a discussion in my second pregnancy although it was a very long time ago so I can’t recall details.

No one ever asked DHs blood group. Why would anyone ask unless they were planning a transfusion? I only found out mine when I was pregnant but I can’t remember what it is.

Made up stuff Sapphos.

The pregnant woman is never asked partners blood group

Well I just watched a video of a flag raising on the US for Juneteenth - a celebration of the end of slavery.

Of course the first flag that went up was the pride flag - twitter was not kind. I saw white teen girls heading off to a BLM March with ‘black trans lives matter’ sharpies onto cardboard.

Well, personally I find it hugely offensive to be termed 'Queer' and anyone doing so by sticking it in an acronym to describe me will get short shrift.

Me too - for almost my whole life "queer" was a term of appalling abuse. lesbian, gay or bi are good enough for sexuality. The other letters are nothing to do with sexuality and are either "identity", personality or kinks. Adding these to LGB ia what is driving people like me away.

And I'm another lesbian (and so is my partner) who now finds the rainbow lanyard or addition to logos and badges increasingly chilling. Because - and the numerous tweets by police demonstrate this clearly - it's only about the T.

All that’s happened is that we’ve got a real time example that nicely illustrates and backs up OP’s points.

Plenty of people will read this and see it for themselves clear as day.

Entirely agree. Lesbians are being singled out for particular attention for not wanting to have sex with "male bodied trans lesbians"! Labeled as transphobes and genitally obsessed. I'd say, look at the abuse received by GC women and ask yourself who is genitally obsessed? Stonewall should be fighting this, instead of which, they've swallowed the trans orthodoxy wholesale. LGB for me!

Well I see this has been successfully merailed beyond repair. Like pretty much any other thread on the board mentioning the word 'lesbian'. Funny that.

It’s easy to argue an opinion diametrically opposed to one’s own as long as there is a coherent argument for it - keep as dispassionate as you can and stick to stating the relevant opinion.

Where transgender ideology falls down is that there is absolutely no coherent argument, and more importantly none of its proponents seems to realise that opinion does not equate to fact. Perception does not equate to material reality.

Rufus

I often have arguments with my wife who is the most TWAW person I've ever met. I take the hard GC stance.

I think it's healthy to argue for the other side once in a while to firm up your own position and to help empathise with other views.

I hope I'm not heading for divorce.

No i was arguing FOR fox hunting

Nobody else would so i had to

Not a fox hunter...don’t agree with it in the slightest and at the time i was vegetarian

I had to admit it in the end...can’t argue for toffee on here though 😀

I managed to convince ds2 that i thought communism was great...then forgot I’d done it when he tried talking about it the following week, so THAT was confusing for a while

but there is still a strong assumption that the pregnant woman is straight.

Absolutely...which is why i said that straight privilege exists

Rufus I don't doubt midwives have seen conception in all its myriad forms but there is still a strong assumption that the pregnant woman is straight. A midwife posted earlier in the thread that 99% of the pregnant women she sees are straight so she makes this assumption.

Interestingly my maternity booking form did ask for my pronoun!

As an aside, I never had you down as a fox hunter I hope you were arguing for the other side.

Would just like to point out that although I don’t doubt there is homophobia in the medical profession and straight privilege

Some women don't know who the father is, some relationships have broken down before the opportunity to ask for a blood type and some straight women use donor sperm either with a partner or without

I think most midwives have probably seen Conception in all Its myriad forms

And i know all these things have been mentioned on the thread But i think there are lots of reasons why women could find the blood type question a difficult one to answer

I wasn’t asked ...but in my case babies were nearly 18 years ago so things may well have changed

NotBadConsidering why on earth would I make it up?

Because you needed an medically significant anecdote about how it was normal to assume the sperm donor was your partner?

Because you have a history of being disingenuous?

I dunno.

But “blood group of partner” is not a standard question and there is no medical requirement to ask it, it is dangerous to do so if that information is relied upon, I’ve never seen or heard it being asked, so I don’t believe your story.