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Big Brother wants 7 years data if you are a rape victim

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OldQueen1969 · 17/06/2020 22:42

www.theguardian.com/society/2020/jun/17/police-in-england-and-wales-dropping-inquiries-when-victims-refuse-to-hand-in-phones

Thought this might be of interest.

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spottedelk · 18/06/2020 00:18

What about all the personal stuff? Political opinions? If you watch porn on your phone, will that be used against you? What about confidential information about your family and friends? Private photos?

IdblowJonSnow · 18/06/2020 00:13

Do they take the rapists phone off them?
I think it's outrageous, such a lot of personal info for them to trawl through. It's pretty violating, potentially, when someone had already been violated.
Why should a victim be investigated? It's immoral and gives the police a very easy get out to investigate further. It just protects the perpetrator really. Can people not see this?

PlanDeRaccordement · 18/06/2020 00:09

It's more that all manner of non related things could be used against you.

Anything not related to the rape cannot be used against you in court about the rape. It would be inadmissible. They can only use relevant evidence. What they are looking for is evidence of consent to sex. They don’t care about anything else for the rape case.

They’d have to start a separate case and charges against you, if you’d committed some other crime and was stupid enough to have evidence of it on your phone. Say, hate speech on 4chan or using BBC iplayer without a TV license.

PlanDeRaccordement · 18/06/2020 00:06

Yes Lang.

Why wouldn’t you? Do you think that you are above the law? But not your rapist?

LangClegTheBeardedVulture · 17/06/2020 23:59

PlanDeRaccordement
So if there was evidence on my phone that I’d bought drugs and time
In the last 7 years, and I’m the victim If a sexual assault, I should be forced to choose between reporting my attacker (and risk arrest) or being denied any kind of justice?

OvaHere · 17/06/2020 23:56

It's not about having something to 'hide'. It's more that all manner of non related things could be used against you.

stumbledin · 17/06/2020 23:35

I saw this more recent report which updates the fact that the police have not accepted that what they were doing is a deterant.

It might help to get more to comments if the thread heading made this clear ie that is about the police NOT responding to earlier criticism.

7Days · 17/06/2020 23:34

How would it work if your phone was a hot pulsing ball of "transphobia", like mine probably is.
Or any other "ism".

Everything is held against the woman in a rape case. A bigot might well lie about rape. Or just regretted the sex with a black/Italian/brexiteer person.

PlanDeRaccordement · 17/06/2020 23:33

Something to hide that had no bearing on my rape?

Well, then just like my rapist, if I did a crime, then I’ll do the time. Although the justice system is actually very lenient with women. Especially traumatised women....
I’d take my chances to bring a rapist to justice. It would be hypocritical to demand justice for my rape but then try and get away Scott free from any crime I had done.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2020 23:25

What if you did have something to hide, that had no bearing on your rape?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2020 23:24

Yes it was discussed on an older thread, however this is a new article.

PlanDeRaccordement · 17/06/2020 22:55

I think this was discussed before too.
I’d hand my phone in. I have nothing to hide. It can do nothing but support my case if I were raped.

Goosefoot · 17/06/2020 22:50

I think this was discussed on an older thread.

Anyway, my view is that it comes down to the courts, it's not the fault of the police.