Miss Mrs Ms Mr don't quite work any more

I hate them and haven't ever seen the point in them. I write lots of formal letters in work and don't recall ever using them. Nobody has complained or raised issue with their 'title' being missing.

When my mum visited a solicitor to finalise part of her divorce, she commented as she signed something that she must be a Ms now and the young male member of staff laughed and said "oh I thought it was only lesbians who used Ms, I'd still use Mrs if I were you"...

(In terms of meaning, that is. It’s not neutral in terms of sex, but that’s important and right and valid - sex isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.)

Ms was completely neutral when it was introduced.

It’s been misappropriated and misused ever since, which is what will happen to any other title that becomes widely used.

Mrs would make me really happy and I'd be proud to be one

I always wonder why is Mrs is so special, and women are so proud to use it, why men don’t feel the same?

It always seems to be women demonstrating their feelings for their marriage, changing name, using Mrs. Do we conclude men aren’t equally proud of being married? Why wouldn’t they be proud to take their wife's name or adopt a new title purely to show they are married?

The neutrality of Mx appeals to me, I just don't want to get into the current trends of mangling language. I think people struggle to get to grips with Ms and that's been around for a long time. I think Mx will be unclear to the majority of people.

I choose “Mx” whenever it’s available because I don’t think it’s anyone’s business whether I am a man or a woman. I doesn’t make me a speshual snowflake.

I grew up in a Scandinavian country, where we rarely used titles at all. Very occasionally there would be a letter for my dad, addressed to (equivalent of) Mr. Dad’s name, and I remember thinking it must be from someone terribly important. Perhaps the queen or the prime minister😂

I'm about to get divorced. I shall remain Mrs Surname. Ms is twatty.

Re schools - several teachers are 'Ms' but the kids seem to kind of blur it into 'Miss' - there's barely any difference between how they say the two titles.

I worked in a school, asked the kids to call me Scrimp but they couldn't handle it. I was Miss Scrimp, like it or not.

Why not just let everyone choose their own title? I'm quite happy being a Mrs. (I also took DH's surname, the shame ).

And before someone asks why: because it's my choice, if I let you have your preferred choice then don't question mine.

*married

it's interesting that 'Sir' is very deferential whereas its equivalent Ma'am (common in the US) is downgraded to mere 'Miss'.

I don't think it's a downgrade. I think the use of "Miss" for teachers stems from the time of the marriage bar when a female teacher had to give up their job on getting marriage so historically all female teachers would have been a "Miss".

Of course they work. You just choose the one you prefer or go by just your first name and surname

I hate Ms. It’s just a noise. Like an annoying bee.
At least we get a choice.

Miss makes me feel 10
Ms apparently makes me sound bitter I am not or am no longer married but I feel like a phenomenal woman when I use it
Mrs would make me really happy and I'd be proud to be one.

@MarielVanArkleStinks yy. Also Mrs Hisname was completely incorrect for me.
Incorrect title, incorrect name. The person they were referring to did not exist. Unless they were actually wanting to speak to my mother in law.

I get “is that Delirium Jnr’s mum?” from my daughter’s school. And before that from her nursery. And before that every fucker I interacted with as a mother.

Not keen.

Yes, the insistence on Mrs Hisname is also a constant assumption.

I expect the school to do it. The in-laws, not so much.

Even in 2020 it's too-often assumed that women who dare exercise their right to their own identities should be put back in their box.

Titles are not important to me, I've always used Ms and if it wasn't automatically a bit twatty I would use Mx. I don't want to use or declare prefixes either.
However, I can see that some people are happy with and would want to use titles. You do need a way to formally address someone sometimes.

@Ninkanink agree that I hate that "can I call you Betty" crap. No you may not, you jumped up little oik. First name surname to verify identity and then continue the conversation as you need.

So legally I went with "Ms" but only because I can't call myself "Empress of my own domain, woman of independent means, and belonging to no one".

Of course you can and anyone who refuses to use your chosen pronoun is committing literal violence.

Please start any replies with 'your imperial majesty' :-)

Re telephone conversations, i also ask to speak to first name surname or check that I'm speaking to first name surname just so I know I've got exactly the right person and not miss smith who is actually a different miss smith eg a daughter etc. I can see that's different if you don't have a job that involves calling clients though. Because I call so many clients I've extended it to 3rd parties as well and actually I like the certainty of it.

Re Mrs, this is what my kids' primary school always called me, even though I faithfully filled in the pupil information forms as Ms, every year. I sort of put up with it until I got divorced and then thought this was really ludicrous now, as it implied my ex was still in the household so it felt inaccurate. So I tried to correct a staff member who apologised and asked for my "new" surname, and then got really confused when I said my surname had never changed, ever. Just one example of the nonsense that can get thrown up by titles.