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285 replies

GeneticTest · 16/06/2020 11:21

I work for an MP.

We’ve had very few emails about GRA in the last few years- mostly against self ID.

We’ve had 4 emails in the last few days all outraged at this attack on transgender people.
All very similar. It’s a campaign.

We must keep emailing so MPs don’t think everyone agrees with the TRAs.

(My MP is GC)

Please- email your MP and let them know your views.

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ThinEndoftheWedge · 19/07/2020 18:47

DialSquare

PM me to check!

DialSquare · 19/07/2020 11:24

ThinEdgeOfTheWedge

I got the exact same response from
my male Tory MP so we must be neighbours!

highame · 17/07/2020 10:50

This is her e-mail [email protected]

highame · 17/07/2020 10:50

I have sent the Spanish Workers' Party statement in the topics to Marsha Decordova - Shadow Sec for Women and Eq.

I asked 'if they could do it, why couldn't the Labour Party'

BaronessSnippyPantsofCroneArmy · 17/07/2020 10:36

I had an excellent response from my MP yesterday. This is after months of emailing but he has finally got off the fence.

Don’t give up. I was previously getting pretty neutral responses but I drip fed him the issues, bit by bit, sending another email every few weeks. I think it was JK Rowling who clinched it.

The other possibility of course is that more and more MPs are speaking out so it now feels ‘safer’ to agree with us.

FedUpWithBriiiiick · 17/07/2020 10:04

Sent an email to my MP just now. Thanks for the inspiration everyone!

highame · 17/07/2020 09:42

Assume your MP is Labour. They haven't learned that responding to constituents is good for business, even if you don't support what they say.

Angryresister · 17/07/2020 09:39

I sent the Spanish statement by the PSOE to my mp today. He promised to come back to me after numerous emails last year. Never did.

highame · 17/07/2020 09:26

I had forgotten to write to everyone. Had done some but now I include Liz Truss, Kier Starmer & Boris Johnson.

I have indirectly accused Kier Starmer of cowardice.

This has come about because I was particularly upset this morning after reading some of the posts. I know lots of you have had days likke this - didn't want to feel left out.

I wonder how those of you who have seen this from the beginning, have had the strength.

marplemead · 14/07/2020 17:59

I've written to my MP again asking her to respond to the specific points I raised in my email. Frustratingly, her reply argued that a lack of incidents involving transwomen in women-only spaces meant that they shouldn't be excluded, even though I had listed some examples of such incidents in my initial email.

wellbehavedwomen · 14/07/2020 14:14

@ThinEndoftheWedge

Response from my MP Male Tory:

I am absolutely committed to protecting women’s rights and freedoms. I completely understand that reforming the GRA is a complex and sensitive issue, which is why it is important for everyone’s views to be heard and listened to. I am especially glad that the Minister for Women and Equalities has recently said that any reforms will ensure the protection of single-sex spaces, which I recognise is extremely important.

I know that many people also have concerns about the impact of this legislation on children. I have raised this with colleagues in the Government and Equalities Office who have assured me of their commitment to ensuring under 18s are protected from making decisions that are irreversible in the future. I believe strongly that adults should have the freedom to live their life but I do think it is very important we protect young adults, who are still developing their decision making processes and capabilities, from taking action which they potentially cannot reverse.

This is a complex area to reform and I want to ensure that the Government gets the balance right.

That's a really, really good response. Freedoms, balanced by impact on other groups. Which is how it should be.
risefromyourgrave · 14/07/2020 14:11

My MP is Penny Mourdaunt, any tips on how I should phrase my letter to her would be greatly appreciated!

BettyFilous · 14/07/2020 13:30

I posted about my MP’s irritating identikit ‘all about the trans’ reply about 3-4 weeks ago. I have now received a much more considered, nuanced reply which directly addresses the points I made about safeguarding and upholding sex-based rights. I strongly suspect the first reply was the party line response and the follow-up reflects my MP’s personal views. It was still incredibly carefully worded, understandable with the current ‘burn them!’ mobbing of dissenters, and says the GRA should be reformed “to create a simpler, less medicalised process”, but the fact my MP wrote again and directly addressed the single sex exemptions gives me hope there will be appropriate scrutiny of any reforms.

SerenityNowwwww · 11/07/2020 09:56

Hmmmm. I’m a member so might call and ask.

CoffeeTeaChocolate · 11/07/2020 09:50

I can imagine!

They haven’t done anything yet, but I think that is a very strong argument against self-ID for the local MP. If this group start to encounter self-ID trans women, they will stop going.

SerenityNowwwww · 11/07/2020 09:02

[quote CoffeeTeaChocolate]@Binterested

Sorry to @ you.

Is the Seymour leisure centre in Westminster? It is a very important place for swimming lessons (and has gym and other classes) and is next to Edgware Road which almost is a little Middle East in London. I cannot imagine that Self-ID would help to get little girls from those families involved. They already have several woman only activities (probably to accommodate these minorities).[/quote]
What have they done? I knew a school swimming teacher there and she said that she taught little girls who wouldn’t swim if they didn’t have single sex lessons and had their all-covering swimsuits (including the hair).

EdgeOfACoin · 11/07/2020 07:50

ThinEdgeOfTheWedge that's encouraging!

Herja · 11/07/2020 07:42

Mine has informed me that she has had 61 letters supporting changes and 6 against. Get those letters out!

CoffeeTeaChocolate · 11/07/2020 07:39

@Binterested

Sorry to @ you.

Is the Seymour leisure centre in Westminster? It is a very important place for swimming lessons (and has gym and other classes) and is next to Edgware Road which almost is a little Middle East in London. I cannot imagine that Self-ID would help to get little girls from those families involved. They already have several woman only activities (probably to accommodate these minorities).

ThinEndoftheWedge · 11/07/2020 07:20

Response from my MP Male Tory:

I am absolutely committed to protecting women’s rights and freedoms. I completely understand that reforming the GRA is a complex and sensitive issue, which is why it is important for everyone’s views to be heard and listened to. I am especially glad that the Minister for Women and Equalities has recently said that any reforms will ensure the protection of single-sex spaces, which I recognise is extremely important.

I know that many people also have concerns about the impact of this legislation on children. I have raised this with colleagues in the Government and Equalities Office who have assured me of their commitment to ensuring under 18s are protected from making decisions that are irreversible in the future. I believe strongly that adults should have the freedom to live their life but I do think it is very important we protect young adults, who are still developing their decision making processes and capabilities, from taking action which they potentially cannot reverse.

This is a complex area to reform and I want to ensure that the Government gets the balance right.

ThinEndoftheWedge · 10/07/2020 19:55

Marplemead

Yes - ask her to specifically reply to your concerns.

Or ask for a surgery meeting - telephone/zoom etc

marplemead · 10/07/2020 19:47

I had a reply from my female Lib Dem MP today. It apologised for the delay in responding, and made clear that she supported the reform. She linked to where she had written about her views online. Whilst it was polite, she didn't actually respond specifically to any of the concerns I had raised in my email. Should I write again?

JKRismyhero · 05/07/2020 20:01

I've heard absolutely nothing from mine so I assume he's ignoring me.

JulesJules · 05/07/2020 17:04

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Justhadathought · 05/07/2020 15:07

My further response to the above:

^There is no logical consistency in arguing that TWAW but then suggesting that single sex spaces, services and sports can be protected; because if anyone can self identify as a woman and TWAW, then 'single sex' no longer has any meaning. Are you suggesting, therefore, that you don't really believe that 'transwomen are women', that you are saying so just to " be kind"? Kindness is also required towards women and girls. Many teenage girls, for example, in schools that have converted the girls' toilets to unisex toilets, are avoiding drinking water during the day, because of the discomfort they feel about using mixed sex facilities. How is this fair? Girls who have worked hard and excelled are now losing out on medals and scholarships intended for them, to trans identified males. This is clearly not fair either.

You have not addressed the fact that trans people have the same civil and legal rights as anyone else in the U.K - what you are seeking is additional rights, and what you are seeking is to enforce and impose into spaces, services and sports designed to cater for women and girls; which would undermine their needs for dignity, privacy and safety. Not all LGB organisations are in agreement with your position either, because they are deeply aware of the implications of trans ideology for many young lesbians and gay men.

I suggest that the reason you have not received much correspondence on this issue, except from the very well resourced trans lobby, is that you have not consulted very widely at all with your constituents; nor has there been any open debate in parliament. Indeed, when 'A Woman's Place U.K' held consultations last year,in Westminster, only a handful of MPs even bothered to turn up, and then Angela Raynor declared them a 'hate group'.. I wonder whether you are open to meeting with representatives from WPUK in your constituency, or whether you would welcome an invitation to consult and discuss further on this issue? There are women from all walks of life and professions who meet to discuss this issue; regular conferences and so on, and you could meet with some of the growing numbers of young detransitioners; as well as with parents of trans identified children; and women married to AGP ( Autogynephillic) men, who now identify as trans.

JKRowling's tone was not mocking at all. It was eloquent, reasoned and informed. Have you seen what women who speak out on this issue get subjected to? Even at the Labour party fringe in Brighton last year, a meeting set up to discuss this issue was subject to screaming abuse and the continued kicking of windows all throughout the meeting. And the Labour party did not condemn this. Indeed, meetings of professionals from around the country, having travelled to liverpool for meetings, have had venues cancel at the last minute due to malicious calls from trans activists; and so having to wander the city trying to locate suitable new venues at the very last minute.

I met with your predecessor, Louise Ellman to discuss this issue, and she was both open and amenable. I hope you too decide that you'd like to consult more widely and to that end I invite you to meet with local women's groups - which I am happy to arrange.
Until I determine that the Labour party is dedicated to listening to all of its party members and constituents, especially on this issue , which is to me the single biggest and most primal issue there is right now - then there is absolutely no chance I will be voting Labour again. And I say that as an ex Labour party member. This is an issue which is not going to go away, and there is no sense in just rebuffing people who have genuine concerns on many different levels. The job of politics is to face and deal with conflicts of interest, and this issue is certainly one of those^

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