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'What is a woman?' Thread by Helen Joyce

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Dances · 16/06/2020 10:41

Pretty funny. But also really not funny.

mobile.twitter.com/HJoyceGender/status/1272799100426207232

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ThePurported · 21/06/2020 20:21

Podcast: Helen Joyce on the Odd Redefinition of the Word “Woman”
quillette.com/2020/06/19/podcast-96-helen-joyce-on-the-odd-redefinition-of-the-word-woman/

Article: She Who Must Not Be Named
quillette.com/2020/06/20/she-who-must-not-be-named/

Helen, you are a formidable formless being Star

BaronessSnippyPantsofCroneArmy · 18/06/2020 12:26

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Poe%27s%20Law

TyroSaysMeow · 18/06/2020 12:14

Yes, I suspected she was that way inclined. But that tweet threw me. Surely, surely it is most tongue-in-cheek?

What's the name of that thing where people get so far down a ridiculous rabbit hole that they can no longer be distinguished from the people satirising them?

Melroses · 18/06/2020 10:52

If you are not sure about Laurie Penny, you can read this thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3942209-Gappy-Tales-Laurie-Pennys-T-RF-Wars-Aguide-to-cognitive-dissonance

She has written a piece in Medium entitiled "Terf Wars: Why transphobia has no place in feminism" which is a marathon 26 mile minute read if you have the time.

SunsetBeetch · 18/06/2020 07:22

Me too Tork!

TorkTorkBam · 18/06/2020 07:19

TERF and cis privilege being referred to in 2013! I was totally oblivious then.

SunsetBeetch · 18/06/2020 07:10

And she's been using the buzzwords for longer than 3 years. So I'd bet she was being serious. Hope that clarifies Smile

'What is a woman?' Thread by Helen Joyce
'What is a woman?' Thread by Helen Joyce
SunsetBeetch · 18/06/2020 07:00

She signed that letter to Boris Johnson from "cis allies"...

TorkTorkBam · 18/06/2020 06:59

I have no idea who LP is, however, that tweet is from three years ago. It doesn't necessarily reflect what she would tweet today.

SunsetBeetch · 18/06/2020 06:18

She's woke woke wokeity woke.

TyroSaysMeow · 17/06/2020 18:57

I confess, I'm not up on LP's views - is she of the woke brigade, or are her hooves terven? Without this knowledge I honestly cannot tell if that tweet is taking the piss or not.

aliasundercover · 17/06/2020 18:17

Surely Laurie Penny is joking? Or is she really that stupid?

Melroses · 17/06/2020 18:17

The UNWomen is a bit like the UNDead really.

TyroSaysMeow · 17/06/2020 18:08

The unpeople formerly known as women?

SunsetBeetch · 17/06/2020 17:23

Oh, Laurie.

'What is a woman?' Thread by Helen Joyce
TyroSaysMeow · 17/06/2020 16:46

'Girl-flavoured person'???

Because implying one could determine a minor's sex by taste isn't problematic at all in this brave new queered world.

Fucking hell, can these people hear themselves?

lionheart · 17/06/2020 16:36

'Girl-flavoured person'???

Melroses · 17/06/2020 15:34

thehelenjoyce.com/what-is-a-woman/

You can browse the collection here. Enjoy.

JellySlice · 16/06/2020 16:45

Clearly some of us didn't get the memo.

'What is a woman?' Thread by Helen Joyce
TorkTorkBam · 16/06/2020 14:59

Wasn't there something by David Thomas "Call me Diana" about wearing pinnies?

Melroses · 16/06/2020 14:59

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00017q2

Sorry, accidently killed the link above.

Melroses · 16/06/2020 14:57

Who, in the name of all that's holy, is Sally Hines?
Sally Hines can be heard here on Womans Hour's series on Gender and Identitiy (sadly broadcast just after the closing of the GRA consultation so not much help)
://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00017q2

It is interesting to hear 'intersex' being used to prop up the argument of 'non-binary' which I now know to be an example of the 'Motte and Baily falacy'.

Grasspigeons · 16/06/2020 14:56

I have come across that piece before. It blows my mind every single time

maadlady · 16/06/2020 14:50

Gawd tweeps, more fodder for taking a dump to.