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Please help me with text to DIL

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StrangeTimes · 16/06/2020 08:21

My son has previously bitten my head off when I mention the rights of women and the rights of trans women. I’ve only spoken gently about it, but he’s soooo woke it’s a definite conversation stopper.

I’ve never mentioned it to my DIL specifically but she is a crazy Harry Potter fan and self proclaimed feminist. Last night I thought “Fuck it” and text her how proud I was of JK Rowling and she was my favourite person in the world right now.

She has replied “Why?”

I don’t want to mess this up, if I can make her understand then maybe she can get through to my son.

Any tips?

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FishAreAcquaintancesNotFood · 16/06/2020 08:42

My son has previously bitten my head off when I mention the rights of women and the rights of trans women. I’ve only spoken gently about it, but he’s soooo woke it’s a definite conversation stopper.

Well if he is happy to tell an actual woman how she should feel about being a woman, he's being a bit of a nob really. I don't think you should try and use your daughter in law to get through to him as quarantine is shit enough without your uber woke husband telling you about lady peen.

Lockdownseperation · 16/06/2020 08:41

She will probably know about JKR stance and it sounds like she doesn’t agree with it. I wouldn’t have started the conversation with her the way you did. If you want to try and change someone views then a soft drip feed would be better if the issues rather than saying a person is amazing. I think all you can reply is she is brave for standing up for what she believes in the face of backlash
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Lampan · 16/06/2020 08:41

Definitely leave it. Unless she has been living under a stone for the past couple of weeks she must know what’s going on, her ‘why?’ Is probably to force you to state your views.
Just you have your opinion and let them have theirs. It’s not the kind of subject where you can make someone change their mind easily.

Tadpolesandfroglets · 16/06/2020 08:38

Yes, please don’t. If you want to have a conversation about it, do so face to face. By text is not the way to do it.

CoffeeTeaChocolate · 16/06/2020 08:36

“Because JK appears to take a measured view and argues for the protection of both trans women and biological women. Sometimes when trying to protect vulnerable trans women (which is key), we forget how vulnerable biological women are, both in the poorest part of our community and all over the world. It is scary to take a measured approach in a world of headlines and JK tried to start that debate”

I would go full out on emotion and the protection of vulnerable biological women who cannot the protect themselves... and keep emphasising that the poor vulnerable trans women also need protection.

Start slow, heavy on emotion and love for all and build it up...?

sashagabadon · 16/06/2020 08:35

I can't see this ending well. I would leave it

bishopgiggles · 16/06/2020 08:35

I'd back away from doing this by text. It also seems passive- aggressive against your son (probably not meant that way but it'll be seen like that).
Just respond something like "oh she made a statement standing up against sexism and homophobia" and leave it until an opportunity comes to discuss in person.

GoldenZigZag · 16/06/2020 08:33

You sound like a nightmare, why are you imposing your views in your poor DIL who obviously doesn't have the foggiest what you're on about? Leave her alone.

aliasundercover · 16/06/2020 08:32

I’d leave it if I were you.

StrangeTimes · 16/06/2020 08:30

I assume she’d just reply “The truth about what?”

Yes am not going to delve into too much detail as it may get misconstrued, and as for my son! No way am I giving up on him!!

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BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 16/06/2020 08:27

“Because JKR knows the truth and said so. Have you read her full statement?”

It would be best to not communicate by text about things that are important to you. Too much scope for wilful misunderstanding.. If your son is woker than woke I suspect there will be little to be gained by attempting to engage