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Please help me with text to DIL

111 replies

StrangeTimes · 16/06/2020 08:21

My son has previously bitten my head off when I mention the rights of women and the rights of trans women. I’ve only spoken gently about it, but he’s soooo woke it’s a definite conversation stopper.

I’ve never mentioned it to my DIL specifically but she is a crazy Harry Potter fan and self proclaimed feminist. Last night I thought “Fuck it” and text her how proud I was of JK Rowling and she was my favourite person in the world right now.

She has replied “Why?”

I don’t want to mess this up, if I can make her understand then maybe she can get through to my son.

Any tips?

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pinkglove75318 · 16/06/2020 09:32

pretty odd thing to text her tbh.

Wecandothis99 · 16/06/2020 09:22

Weird

Harriett123 · 16/06/2020 09:21

I'm a massive harry potter fan and a feminist but I dont agree with JKR point of view on transgender individuals. My point of view is womens right and LGBTQ rights are not mutually exclusive.
Being a fan of someoneliteraturedoesnt meanyou agree with everything that person does or says.
Back off and leave her alone especially if you have butted heads with your son over this in the past.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 16/06/2020 09:19

It's never a good idea to start such a politically-charged conversation with in-laws, even if you get on with them. That's especially the case via text or email, which have a nasty habit of becoming misconstrued.

I agree completely with your position, BTW.

Beechview · 16/06/2020 09:16

This may not go how you want it to go so back off if there’s any hint that she doesn’t see your viewpoint.
Just agree to disagree and respect each other’s views and leave it.

Longtalljosie · 16/06/2020 09:15

Maybe just send A link to the essay? I doubt you could put it better than she did...

Juno231 · 16/06/2020 09:13

@LaureBerthaud because OP knows they disagree and the text out of the blue was just an attempt to stir sh*t for no reason?

Helmetbymidnight · 16/06/2020 09:13

Yes, and you could make it a bit lighter and add something like: 'I'm going to have to watch the series/read the books now, aren't I!' - (If you haven't already)

I think her 'why?' is not the most forthcoming of responses.

123th · 16/06/2020 09:13

Can't wait to see a thread about a nightmare MIL who's trying to start a fight with her son through DIL about JKR first thing in the morningHmm

StrangeTimes · 16/06/2020 09:12

*clever

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StrangeTimes · 16/06/2020 09:09

Hmmm you’re right in retrospect I shouldn’t have text her, but I woke up with a bee in my bonnet! Anyway too late, I did text her.

She’s an amazing, clever and wonderful DIL and I hope I haven’t pissed her off!

So am going to reply using one of PPs suggestions

Oh I really enjoyed the essay she wrote and thought it was a good way of addressing some concerns she had

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FishAreAcquaintancesNotFood · 16/06/2020 09:09

Oh come on - how can she possibly not know?

Because loads of people don't follow the news or live on Facebook/ twitter. Or maybe they saw a story out of the side of their eye but haven't actually read it. DH reads the news all day long but hadn't clicked on the story as he doesn't tend to click on 'sleb' stuff (other than to shout "Who even if is this person" occasionally in my general direction. Hmm

Truthfully, news gets missed all the time particularly in the middle of a pandemic and BLM. I can name 10 different stories around the subject at least but that's because I read feminist twitter people and MN.

If the "why" was meant to be confrontational she did a crap job of it. If a celeb had posted an essay that felt was sexist or racist and my mil texted me to let me know they were happy about it, I'd have more than "why" as a response.

AJPTaylor · 16/06/2020 09:08

But people are often happy living under rocks. Whole rafts of people could not care less about this issue either way. It's not your job to impose your views on your son or daughter in law.

LaureBerthaud · 16/06/2020 09:06

I would be proper annoyed to get anything like that from my MIL

Why? Are women not allowed to have conversations (albeit by text), share ideas just because they are only related by marriage? I'd bloody love to chat about this with my MIL!

Kit19 · 16/06/2020 08:59

Yes I’d leave it too. This has all the chances of developing into a horrible situation & causing a rift with your DS & DIL

If she supported JKR she would have replied positively, she didn’t. Leave it

Hercwasonaroll · 16/06/2020 08:57

Why would you send this message in the first place?! I would be proper annoyed to get anything like that from my MIL.

ComeBy · 16/06/2020 08:56

I feel pretty sure that if your Ds knows about Trans rights etc, then his wife certainly does. And almost certainly agrees.

And your Ds has probably rolled his eyes and decried you as a TERF to his wife, with ‘it’s generational’ and a sigh.

Her ‘why’ is fully confrontational.

Have a conversation with her for its own sake, using her to get at your Ds is not on.

Leave it, or just reply ‘ to have left an abusive marriage and made a life for herself writing’.

Shuttup · 16/06/2020 08:51

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DidoLamenting · 16/06/2020 08:48

I don't think the OP can leave it entirely alone or it would be really weird if her dil genuinely doesn't know what the hell is happening

Oh come on - how can she possibly not know?

dayoftheclownfish · 16/06/2020 08:48

Don't do it - don't reply. Anybody in the UK who hasn't lived under a rock will know what this is about.

FishAreAcquaintancesNotFood · 16/06/2020 08:46

I don't think the OP can leave it entirely alone or it would be really weird if her dil genuinely doesn't know what the hell is happening.

Just say "Oh I really enjoyed the essay she wrote and thought it was a good way of addressing some concerns she had" and then possibly link it. But don't get into it with her it's not her job to deal with your woke son.

RHTawneyonabus · 16/06/2020 08:45

This is definitely not a conversation to have over text! The HP mega fan in my life now hates JKR rather than get into a massive FB row we’ve agreed to disagree

EsmeeMerlin · 16/06/2020 08:44

why would you text your daughter in law that, do you think she wants to be lectured by you so that you can make a point to your son?

maddy68 · 16/06/2020 08:44

Why are you volunteering your views to your DIL? The first way to cause unnecessary tension it is not you're role as a mil to project your views or try to change those of your adult sons. I would imagine your DIL shares similar views to your son. you sound like a nightmare mil tbh

DidoLamenting · 16/06/2020 08:43

Your daughter-in-law will presumably know exactly what has been happening re JKR. The one word reply "why" shows she does not share your opinion of JKR.

I'd drop it now.