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Revolt at publisher Hachette re Rowling "transphobia"

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Lamahaha · 16/06/2020 06:05

Young staff members threatened a strike apparently:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8424029/JK-Rowling-publishers-revolt-Workers-publishing-house-Hachette-threaten-tools.html

My heart sank when I read that headline and the opening paragraphs, since I have professional "connections" to Hachette:

Publishing staff working on JK Rowling’s latest book threatened to down tools yesterday in protest at her views on gender.
...
Yesterday morning at publishing house Hachette, several of those involved in Miss Rowling’s new children’s book, The Ickabog, are said to have staged their own rebellion during a heated meeting. One source said: ‘Staff in the children’s department at Hachette announced they were no longer prepared to work on the book.

‘They said they were opposed to her comments and wanted to show support for the trans lobby. These staff are all very “woke”, mainly in their twenties and early thirties, and apparently it is an issue they feel very strongly about.’

But fortunately the grown-ups held up to the toys-out-of-the-pram tantrum:

Last night Hachette issued a statement backing Miss Rowling’s right to express herself. It said: ‘We are proud to publish JK Rowling’s children’s fairy tale The Ickabog. Freedom of speech is the cornerstone of publishing. We fundamentally believe that everyone has the right to express their own thoughts and beliefs. That’s why we never comment on our authors’ personal views and we respect our employees’ right to hold a different view.

‘We will never make our employees work on a book whose content they find upsetting for personal reasons, but we draw a distinction between that and refusing to work on a book because they disagree with an author’s views outside their writing, which runs contrary to our belief in free speech.’

I can't say how pleased and proud I am. Well done Hachette.

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emilybrontescorsett · 16/06/2020 10:59

Bloody typos! Woke not women.

emilybrontescorsett · 16/06/2020 10:59

Well I think these young women staff will soon discover that there are plenty of people who will gladly step into their shoes and do their job.
As said above you are at work to work. My employer does not pay me to spout my beliefs, it pays me to do the job I am employed to do.

SerenityNowwwww · 16/06/2020 10:55

@Dances

Emmuvva Indeed, I have teenagers and they are all GC, as are their friends.

But then they are not spoiled Goldsmith types.

My teen and his mates are all on the side of biology.

They actually think for themselves and don’t buy onto this nonsense. Basically - they can think in more than 280 characters.

BrexpatInSwitzerland · 16/06/2020 10:52

To be honest what really bothers me on a very fundamental level is the hypocrisy and lack of intellectual honesty of it all.

As stated upthread, my own job is not always fully aligned with all of my personal beliefs. It's a personal decision I have actively taken because I have concluded that, all things considered, I'm not willing to sacrifice job satisfaction and earning potential on the altar of ideological purity - especially not since it's hardly as though it would make a difference and everything I do depends on big corporations with all their good and all their flaws anyway. Even if I worked for the wokest little start up out there, I'd still be part of "the system".

And, the brutal truth is: "the system" is good to these people. I.e. university educated, white collar employees who have enough prospects to chose roles in an industry they presumably feel passionate about. The system is even better to people like myself, i.e. someone like the boss of the boss of their bosses. My misgivings about it stem from the question of whether or not it's good for people a lot less fortunate which it clearly isn't and what the ethical implications are thereof.

It's the being happy to benefit from the system but demanding personal exemptions when it's uncomfortable that bugs me and strikes me as hypocritical. Because your ability to do so depends on everyone else getting their hands dirty to prop up what ultimately affords these people such privilege.

They remind me a lot of the type of anti-vaxxers who won't vaccinate their children but somehow fully expect them to be protected from measles nonetheless because other parents vaccinate and they benefit from herd immunity.

Rant over. But, yes, this bugs me - in this particular instance as well as as a wider, more general trend.

Dances · 16/06/2020 10:52

Emmuvva
Indeed, I have teenagers and they are all GC, as are their friends.

But then they are not spoiled Goldsmith types.

ArriettyJones · 16/06/2020 10:48

@SameoldBS

The problem is this tactic has worked in so many other places and instances. Look at the hounding of Suzanne Moore at the Guardian. Hachette is probably one of the few places where it hasn't worked. Even the New Scientist has fallen to the thought police.
Good. They’re setting a precedent, providing a template for how organisations can withstand this nonsense.
SerenityNowwwww · 16/06/2020 10:42

No they won’t walk. They are acting like little social warriors who obviously never had to face real discrimination on their molly coddled little lives.

I am glad the grownups are speaking.

SameoldBS · 16/06/2020 10:32

The problem is this tactic has worked in so many other places and instances. Look at the hounding of Suzanne Moore at the Guardian. Hachette is probably one of the few places where it hasn't worked. Even the New Scientist has fallen to the thought police.

TheSingingKettle49 · 16/06/2020 10:32

I once resigned from a job where my colleagues were openly racist and the management didn’t do anything about it, I would expect that if these employees have the courage of their convictions they will do the same? Thought not.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 16/06/2020 10:29

Imagine having to explain at a job interview why you left your last job.

When I am feeling down I like to think of our friendly work-wanker James Makings in this situation. I can now add these pomo woke little twits to the daydream!

KaronAVyrus · 16/06/2020 10:14

Imagine having to explain at a job interview why you left your last job. The interviewer will just think “troublemaker” and pop your CV in the bin.

They really are astonishingly immature - how the hell have they not worked out that the point of a business is to make money?

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 16/06/2020 10:11

Oh god this is so funny!

Did the scream and scream and scream until they were sick? Grin

Imagine throwing your little paddy like that, then being told to pack it in! by the grown ups! I bet none of them have quit in protest, have they? Morals not quite that hardy?

Not to worry, I'm sure it will all be remembered at appraisal time...

Thisismytimetoshine · 16/06/2020 10:09

@MoltoAgitato

It’s the Cultural Revolution all over again, isn’t it? Except hopefully the grown ups will hold firm this time.

I do wonder how many will actually resign.

None. Who else would rush to take them on?
MoltoAgitato · 16/06/2020 10:07

It’s the Cultural Revolution all over again, isn’t it? Except hopefully the grown ups will hold firm this time.

I do wonder how many will actually resign.

RufustheRowlingReindeer · 16/06/2020 10:01

Very good news

The annoying thing is some authors will have said things that annoy and upset all sorts of people...and i bet most people won’t even think to check that their personal views align before threatening not to work with those authors

And there is no way warner bros would close down parts of their parks and films....

KaronAVyrus · 16/06/2020 09:52

There is going to be a global recession (perhaps depression) and these young members of staff can be easily replaced. They’re not at school or university anymore and now need to grow up.
But tbh they’ve probably earmarked themselves as trouble makers and will be gently let go.

Emmuvva · 16/06/2020 09:45

God, I'm so sick of this. I have to keep reminding myself that not all young people are so bloody entitled.

ItsLateHumpty · 16/06/2020 09:34

This is a purity spiral on steroids. I hope the woke stasi comrades also background check every single author whose work they’re involved with.

Hmm
justanotherneighinparadise · 16/06/2020 09:29

Something has gone very wrong somewhere hasn’t it?

In this time of mass future unemployment I would get my head down and do my job and be bloody grateful I could provide a roof and food each month. Maybe these kids are still living with their patents rent free? It’s so much easier to take the moral high ground on things when your stomach is nice and full and there’s hot water in the tank.

RoyalCorgi · 16/06/2020 09:23

Agree that it's the arrogance of these people that is so astounding. They think they have the right to dictate to their employer who they do and don't publish. JKR must be hugely profitable for Hachette - they're not going to ditch her just because some sulky 12-year old thinks she has a wrong opinion. I hope Hachette tells them they're welcome to go and find someone else to work for if they don't like it.

Oxyiz · 16/06/2020 09:23

Oh no, how will they recruit more staff to replace the freelancers who can't bear to work with them during an upcoming recession and economic crisis.

Thisismytimetoshine · 16/06/2020 09:21

Empty threats of strike do nothing for your career.
Let's hope their cards have been well and truly marked.

Helmetbymidnight · 16/06/2020 09:20

I'm going to DM you, Lama. xx

Dreeple · 16/06/2020 09:19

Unofficial strike, or strike outwith procedure, is a sackable offence in the UK.

They would really struggle to run this strike properly, so it’s really an empty threat. Empty threats of strike do nothing for your career.

Dances · 16/06/2020 09:17

On this subject, I mean