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Revolt at publisher Hachette re Rowling "transphobia"

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Lamahaha · 16/06/2020 06:05

Young staff members threatened a strike apparently:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8424029/JK-Rowling-publishers-revolt-Workers-publishing-house-Hachette-threaten-tools.html

My heart sank when I read that headline and the opening paragraphs, since I have professional "connections" to Hachette:

Publishing staff working on JK Rowling’s latest book threatened to down tools yesterday in protest at her views on gender.
...
Yesterday morning at publishing house Hachette, several of those involved in Miss Rowling’s new children’s book, The Ickabog, are said to have staged their own rebellion during a heated meeting. One source said: ‘Staff in the children’s department at Hachette announced they were no longer prepared to work on the book.

‘They said they were opposed to her comments and wanted to show support for the trans lobby. These staff are all very “woke”, mainly in their twenties and early thirties, and apparently it is an issue they feel very strongly about.’

But fortunately the grown-ups held up to the toys-out-of-the-pram tantrum:

Last night Hachette issued a statement backing Miss Rowling’s right to express herself. It said: ‘We are proud to publish JK Rowling’s children’s fairy tale The Ickabog. Freedom of speech is the cornerstone of publishing. We fundamentally believe that everyone has the right to express their own thoughts and beliefs. That’s why we never comment on our authors’ personal views and we respect our employees’ right to hold a different view.

‘We will never make our employees work on a book whose content they find upsetting for personal reasons, but we draw a distinction between that and refusing to work on a book because they disagree with an author’s views outside their writing, which runs contrary to our belief in free speech.’

I can't say how pleased and proud I am. Well done Hachette.

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Dances · 16/06/2020 09:17

Comments are not being moderated on that Daily Mail piece. That's the first time I have seen that happen.

Thisismytimetoshine · 16/06/2020 09:06

Oh, bloody well done, Hachette! Hope the little upstarts put their money where their mouth is and resign in disgust 😂.

The utter neck of them making these sort of demands...
The pure arrogance is astounding.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 16/06/2020 09:05

Well done Hachette. People working in book publishing - ideas - theories not wanting to work on JKR's book because they disagree with her ideas? We're moving so close to a totalitarian state with proscribed thinking it's unbelievable. These are the university educated elite coming out with these dangerous beliefs.

It is so clear why trans lobby groups target universities and children in schools because this is the outcome. Young narcissistic adults devoid of the most fundamental understanding of democratic principles and critical thinking.

Milicentbystander72 · 16/06/2020 09:02

I work with Hachette professionally too.

Luckily I'm a freelancer so not anymore it seems.

dayoftheclownfish · 16/06/2020 09:01

Interesting insights, Brexpat, it strikes me that there is a pattern here, common to all sorts of social justice causes (I hasten to call these movements because the idea seems to be that it's the individual's responsibility to change society) in the neoliberal age, where people such as your colleague have internalised the idea that they are somehow responsible for wider social issues and that their individual action will make a difference. It's antithetical to collective action or the democratic process (sorry, not sure I'm making sense here ...) and it politicises all aspects of human life. I would see this in the same area as becoming vegan, for example. But there are strict boundaries around this kind of permissible individual moralised behaviour, it still has to work within our capitalist consumerist society, which might explain why your employee was able to decide to become a financial services consultant in the first place instead of, say, a social worker.

Aesopfable · 16/06/2020 08:49

Hachette should have said ‘she pays your wages, if you don’t want to be a hypocrite there is the door’.

BrexpatInSwitzerland · 16/06/2020 08:28

It's good to see them holding up - especially in publishing, which is so close to the very core of issues around free speech.

The general behaviour, though, seems to be a general trend, though, including the expectation for ones personal ideals to matter in the work place. I've had a young employee explain to me in very earnest tones why they would not feel comfortable with working for big corporate banking clients and asking to be assigned to something of a more charitable nature. They work as and had only very recently applied for the position of ... financial services consultant, specialising in investment banking. Confused

I'm glad firms are not caving in. It'd be disasterous especially when it runs the risk of ending up imposing de facto censorship. Having said that, I'm not sure how long this will remain a given as this type of behaviour becomes the norm.

And, for what it's worth, I'm a leftie and I also work for corporate banking clients. It's not always comfortable - but also: I don't expect my work to reflect values. Some of the cognitive dissonance may be a goid thing in that it teaches you to cope with internal conflict rather well. I've some red lines, e.g. I wouldn't work for a weapons manufacturer. But then I also wouldn't expect to be employed as a defense systems innovation consultant tasked with developing deadlier guns.

Oxyiz · 16/06/2020 08:16

Some of the activists have already been burning Harry Potter books.

Ironically many years ago, the same group would have ridiculed other faith-based groups for the exact same behaviour.

Sushiroller · 16/06/2020 08:05

Thank god WB and Hachette have some common sense

I find this 1984 thought police nonsense absolutely terrifying

Lordamighty · 16/06/2020 07:52

Coincidentally I was just catching up with the article about JKR in the Sunday Times.
I am glad that Hachette haven’t given in to this but it’s very worrying that these young people think they can influence publishers in this way. If freedom of speech is not for you then maybe publishing is the wrong career choice.

dayoftheclownfish · 16/06/2020 07:51

Publishing is a very competitive industry ... just sayin'

poorbuthappy · 16/06/2020 07:49

Feels like we are a minute away from
Burning books. Sad

SerenityNowwwww · 16/06/2020 07:46

Wish the companies would turn tables and start cancelling bullies.

Oxyiz · 16/06/2020 07:45

This is fantastic, and I'm pleased that Warner Bros didn't cave either.

I'm sure it was 99% about money for them ("So this team meeting is to discuss whether we should attack the woman who's one of our biggest earners and essentially funded all your jobs.")

But even so, fighting the cancel culture is hard.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 16/06/2020 07:44

If only the parents of those young people publicly tantruming now had done the same.

SerenityNowwwww · 16/06/2020 07:44

In my contracts there always has been the ‘if you don’t like it - if it’s part of your job (that you signed up for) hold your nose and do it’ clause.

SerenityNowwwww · 16/06/2020 07:42

I stopped saying ‘yes dear’ to avoid a tantrum/row, and allowing the odd chocolate bar with breakfast for a quiet life when DS was... about 4?

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 16/06/2020 07:42

Surely if a person refuses to do their job they can be sacked? I'm afraid I've rather passed the point of trying to find compromise. It is not appropriate for organizations or governments to respond to tantrum with placation. It's long past time that people who throw their toys out of the pram every time they don't get their own way were told "no".

Lamahaha · 16/06/2020 07:40

The students who started no platforming are now in the real world and I imagine it's tough finding out that your employer doesn't care what your ideals are, you're there to work. And it's fine if you disagree, there are other people who will happily fill your vacancy position if you leave. They think their opinions are worth the same to their boss as their employer's major writer. It's almost funny.

This is spades. They've grown up having grown-ups bend over backwards to accommodate them and their feelings and now it's time to learn about reality and that no, you can't always demand something and get it. Your bosses are not your parents.

I am beyond proud. Yes, Hachette is my publisher and I'm so happy to see them standing firm.

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ahumanfemale · 16/06/2020 07:38

If I was their boss, i'd really want to know which part of her post that they disagreed with! She said literally nothing "against" transgender people.*

I'd want to them to take me through it too, especially if they have anything to do with reading manuscripts and making decisions about which books to put up for publishing. They've clearly demonstrated an inability to understand text and to think critically about it. They've also demonstrated that they can't tolerate something they don't agree with, indicating that if an amazing script came through, but they didn't agree with it, they'd discard it.

I mean, if you work in publishing and can't read what is there in black and white, only what's in your head, then it's probably time to look for another career.

ahumanfemale · 16/06/2020 07:34

Well done Hachette.

I don't think it's about ideals of freedom of speech, although that may be something the company supports. It'll be about the bottom line. And that's because it's a company. It's not a social enterprise set up to give woolly hugs to its junior staff and print the works of writers they agree with.

The students who started no platforming are now in the real world and I imagine it's tough finding out that your employer doesn't care what your ideals are, you're there to work. And it's fine if you disagree, there are other people who will happily fill your vacancy position if you leave. They think their opinions are worth the same to their boss as their employer's major writer. It's almost funny.

MonsteraCheeseplant · 16/06/2020 07:22

If I was their boss, i'd really want to know which part of her post that they disagreed with! She said literally nothing "against" transgender people. So immature. I'm glad the publishers at least are being adults about this. FFS children.

Floisme · 16/06/2020 07:17

Hachette workers have previous I believe - Woody Allen.

Saucery · 16/06/2020 07:11

Subtext: not publish a new JKR book? Are you mad?????

Good on Hachette, I’ll see how I can support by buying their authors.

BringbackLang · 16/06/2020 07:09

All this childish, toy throwing behaviour is not doing gender ideology any good at all.

There is a petition on Change re the changes to GRA, lots of emotive, hyperbole and misinformation, you would truly believe how awful the government is for listening to women. Contrast that to the open season on bullying, the cancel culture, the threats, the woke staff (just in the last week alone) it paints an entirely different picture from the 'most oppressed people ever' line. The government is watching all this unfold. What we have been saying for years is being proven right every single day and this time the public is seeing it as well.

This is just another example.

Sunlight.